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Thanks Cody. I was hoping you would chime in. I see you point now on using a single maser mosaic when hosing services. I have been testing only running mosaics from our enterprise database directly and not via a service. Having multiple mosaic datasets individually hosted as a service definitely would consume more resources. I will look into the "table" raster type. I have always used the default raster type as our imagery is all standard aerial imagery. Our imagery varies in size over time. The 2001 imagery has 440 rows and just the TIFFs are 10.3GB. The 2021 imagery is 2512 rows for the TIFFs and 240 GB. However, as you pointed out, look at the Landsat imagery with millions of records. Ultimately, we had not noted any performance issues with 7 or 8 datasets and the main reason for my questions. I think we would have started to see issues and why I needed a better understanding pertaining to multiple year datasets. Thanks again.
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I found another post on ESRI Community (Mosaic Dataset: Rules for multiple dates ) that @CodyBenkelman states: There are some pitfalls in the advice you have been given in this tutorial - e.g. it says "Caution: This design is optimal when you have less than eight rows added to your master mosaic dataset." but unfortunately does not tell you the reasons for this caution, or what alternatives you have. I really would like to understand the limitations noted in these posts and videos, but cannot find an specific rational. We have been provided another 8 image raster sets that we would like to make portions available to our users. I want to build the mosaic datasets the best way possible for optimal performance and allow for future growth. Our AOI is only about 75 square miles and with the additional rasters noted above, about 2.8TB of data once overviews are generated.
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Todd, Thanks for the quick reply. I am experimenting with this on our development servers and do not see a difference between multiple MDS, a master MDS using time slider and the same master MDS using definition queries to filter the year. They are all rendering quickly and with out issue. I have not attempted to publish the master MDS to our image server to see the performance at that level. I guess I should have included: ArcGIS Enterprise 10.9 with Image Server. Mixed Desktop 10.8.1 and ArcGIS Pro 2.8.2 user systems.
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I have always used multiple mosaic datasets in a file or enterprise geodatabase to store our aerial imagery by reference. I create a mosaic dataset for each new flight and users can access the different years by selecting the appropriate dataset. As I was preparing to add a new dataset, I reviewed the documentation and recommended process. Apparently, I should be taking this a step further and building a "master mosaic dataset" by adding each years mosaic dataset to this master and making the dataset time aware by adding date information. Over all this makes sense; however, I have several questions. 1) How is there an advantage when you would need to filter the data to render each year individually? We do not do any temporal analysis on the data but only display the data for the end user by year. 2) An ESRI video (Managing Imagery Using Mosaic Datasets and Image Services - 43:58) recommended having only one mosaic dataset per geodatabase. We have never really had any issues with the seven datasets we currently use and are were planning to add an eighth. Should we expect to see a performance improvement creating a master dataset? 3) The recommended workflow in Creating a mosaic dataset containing raster data from multiple dates indicates that "This design is optimal when you have less than eight rows added to your master mosaic dataset." It does not go on to explain why or provide an alternative for larger collections. What are our options as we are reaching this point?
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After trying several different approaches, I found that I can run Project (Data Management) on the saved feature class and this will fix the NULL values. The output feature class has the correct Shape_Length and Shape_Area values assigned in the fGDB. arcpy.management.Project(in_dataset, out_dataset, out_coor_system, transform_method) It would be great is this could be resolved without having to run an additional data management function. It would also be great if you could just run the Feature Class To Feature Class (Conversion) from a python script for data hosted on ArcGIS Online and Hub. I am going to put a ticket in for initial issue.
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I am working on a script in Python to copy several Feature Classes hosted on ArcGIS Hub to a local fGDB. I am using the workflow provided by @JoshuaBixby in Using arcpy to copy a portal feature service to a fgdb feature class. This is working for most of the features but a few will have NULL values listed for their Shape_Length and Shape_Area once imported into the fGDB. Some features do not add these fields while others populate without issue. Any Idea as to how to resolve the Null values. import arcpy
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url_fl = r"https://the.url.com/arcgis/rest/services/structures/MapServer/0"
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Philip, I just opened the same survey on my system using 3.13 beta and I am now getting the same slow response. I also tried 3.12 and 3.13 beta on another new system (Dell Precision 3650) with the same results. Dell Precision T3650 Workstation Windows 10 Pro (10.0.19042) 16 GB DDR4 Memory Intel Xeon W-1390P CPU (3.50 to 5.30 GHz) NVIDIA Quatro P2200 Card
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Thanks Philip, I am running this on a high end Dell Precision Workstation. It is not new but never had any issues with any CAD or GIS applications. Dell Precision T3610 Workstation Windows 10 Pro (10.0.19042) 32 GB DDR3 Memory Intel Xeon E5-1620 CPU (3.70 GHz) NVIDIA Quatro K5000 Card
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Additional Info: Downloaded the beta 64bit version of Survey123 Connect (3.13.127) and it runs without issues. However, I cannot use a beta in our production environment.
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I just downloaded ArcGIS Survey123 Connect (3.12.232) to create a new survey to publish to AGOL. I installed the application and upon opening the application it is painfully sluggish. Hovering over the three ellipses for each survey, the pop-up will fade-in in steps over about 4-5 seconds. Hovering over the existing published surveys the image will zoom in/out extremely slow (2-3) seconds in steps. Opening a small survey will take 2-3 minutes. Never had this issue with other versions. I tried re-downloading the app and reinstalling with the same results. Also tried installing as Administrator and tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions. Additionally, uninstall does not work from Windows Control Panel. I also tried to create a new blank survey with the same results. Running on Windows 10, 64 Bit OS.
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Joshua, You are on it as usual and thanks for the reply. Our production environment will be running on redundant ESXi hosts that are nowhere near capacity. Two or three GIS Servers are easily manageable. There is no additional cost for the OS or hardware as we are in a VM environment. Last, we have an ELA with ESRI so covered for GIS licensing. The Image server(s) will mainly be serving temporal basemap imagery that is far too large to upload to AGOL. Our other feature services are hosted both on our GIS servers and AGOL. We try to pull the data from AGOL first but for testing and some internal work we host it locally only. I am running a test deployment on a Hyper-V server with 1) three ArcGIS Servers in a single site configured with roles of both ArcGIS GIS Server and Image Server and 2) two ArcGIS GIS Servers on one site with another ArcGIS Image Server on a second site. I am not really seeing a difference between the two test deployments. However, this is not a production environment and hence my original question.
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We are testing a new ArcGIS Server 10.9 deployment and were planning on two server sites. Two (2) servers with the role of ArcGIS GIS Server on the first site and one (1) server with the role of ArcGIS Image Server on the second site. The only reason we are adding an Image Server is to be able to publish mosaic datasets. There are no plans to utilize other functionality of the Image Server for our deployment. The question came up of instead of creating the two sites noted above, license two or three servers for both ArcGIS GIS Server and Image Server roles on a single site. Note, we have the licenses available as well as additional memory and cores for each system, if needed. I have seen a few posts where others have worked through a couple of licensing issues to complete this process, but not sure of the outcome. ESRI states it is recommended to place each role on a separate system and if we were fully utilizing Image Server I would not even be thinking about this option. In our past deployment, we only utilized ArcGIS GIS Server and hosted Image features using SID files and Tile Cache without any issues. Has anyone deployed a similar configuration and was it successful? Issues or regrets?
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Thanks again. I will create and use separate folders on a single share. Sounds like I may want to migrate the existing "server" site to a new folder. I was really hoping ArcGIS Server created subfolders for sites like instances/databases in SQL or websites in IIS.
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LOL, Thanks Joshua. That was exactly what I was envisioning would happen and why I asked. I have deployed a mixed role cluster deployment in the past but I have never deployed a multi site ArcGIS Server deployment. I could not find in the documentation if ArcGIS Server would create needed subfolders for each site on the network shares or if separate shares should be created for each site. Based upon your reply, I would assume separate shares/folders are needed for each ArcGIS Server site.
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I have an ArcGIS Server site (call it "server") with several ArcGIS servers configured with the ArGIS GIS Server role and using a network share for the Server Directory and Configuration Store between them. I am planning to add a new ArcGIS Server to a new site (call it "image") that will be configured with the role of a ArcGIS Image Server. Can this new site/server share that same share or should a new separate share be created?
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