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I agree Ted, this would be a good enhancement. We are looking into some possible solutions. I'll keep you posted on any progress. Thanks, David Should I file that as an enhancement?
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Ted These 2 ESDA tools creates "dots" on the graph, where each dot represents what happens between 2 points. The number of points in the graph can be calculated by computing n(n+1)/2, where n=number of points. We have done testing and determined that n=500 is sufficient, i.e. 125,250 dots on the graph. Using more than 500 points really does not tell you much more, so we decided to warn you each time. n=1000 will create half a million dots, will you learn any more than if you used n=500? A rule of thumb when doing ESDA is to create a subset (use the CreateSubsets GP tool) if you're using a large dataset. 1000 is large when talking to geostatisticians. I cannot repro the crash. Hope this helps and thanks for testing Steve Ok, I will retest on some other data, and see if I can repro. Are you guys using Win 7?
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Ted We introduced the new Wizard in 10. The reason it stays on top is to ensure that it does not get "lost". I.e. it gets moved off the page or something else gets on top of it. Also, because it is an interactive tool, it should be the focus of attention. I.e. Add Field tool can be run before or after the Wizard is used. We do take note of your concerns and we'll see if we could change it in some or other way. To change the order of which field comes first. Setting the field to be used is not a Geostats function but an ArcGIS function and it has been around for a while. - Right click on the Feature layer in the TOC - click on Layer and then on the Display tab - under the Display Expression section select the Field (note for Geostats it must be numeric) - hit OK That field will be the default field in the ESDA tools and also in the Wizard. it really only is a problem if you have cursor focus, otherwise its nice to have it on top, besides, you are right, it is my focus at that exact moment or for as long as I am tweaking my attributes. Actually didn't display expressions come in at 10, so it uses a display expression. That is good to know, thats all I need to know, thanks Steve.
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At this point, I am just kicking the tires, seeing where I can break the software, or if I can't, but yeah dynamically rendering hundreds of thousands of points, awesome.
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I will put together a dataset. No worries, really. i will retest today as well, or the rest of this week, with some sales data, to see if I can trigger. The key here was multiple windows.
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08-30-2011
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I'm having the same issue with Maplex (many items greyed out). I guess I can go the uninstall/reinstall route. When I installed it, I didn't put in an authorization code, but just checked that I wanted to evaluate it. I wonder if that is causing the problem? Which version of desktop are you using?
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Perhaps a similiar behavior to the Crosscovariance tool, where I set the top data source, see the annoying popus twice, but when I hit the second tier, I don't see the popups. It seems like I may have experienced a crash with this tool as well, not a physical crash, but a not responding crash. Duped twice. So, it completes, but I do get an unspecified error in the crosscovariance tab. So, that's cool, after I get the unspecified error, I can still add it to layout, so that works... it is still unspecified, but I can see it on my map. if I shake the dialog, I can see the error jiggle 🙂
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So, if I open up my subset, and I have more than 500 records (I have a 1000), i get the popup. If I change the attribute, I get another popup. If I change the attribute again, I get another popup, etc..... Why not give me one popup, and then after the first one, not give me additional popups, seems a bit redundant. I get it. i have more than 500 points, I don't need to be reminded over and over and over and over and over and over.
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So, at this point I have open the Covariance Cloud, Histogram, Voronoi, and Normal QQ Plot dialogs and no crash, so if I open up the trend, what will happen. Has my luck changed for the better? NOPE!!!! Crash. Seems to be related to the trend dialog. i guess trend doesn't like to have friends open ;(
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With my smaller subset, no problem. Perhaps, a Data Loader dialog could be used here like what you have done for the Semivariogram/Covariance Cloud. Instead of saying that less is more to find the interesting data, it could say, if you use more than 1000, it may crash.
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Finally created an mxd, so i don't have to completely start over.
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Opening three exploratory windows at the same time, with a smaller subset, this time down to 1000 records has caused a crash. Crashed twice. Right Now going for my third. Cross my fingers for a crash. The little files have been sent, so look for them :). Histogram Normal QQ Plot Trend Boom. Did it again. Using Mean, all the windows. Will test the other windows, now.
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I am also seeing the vertical rotate wheel works only sometimes, like if I whiz through it to flip it around, then flip it back, it seems to not do anything. I have to hit the horizontal wheels to get the rotation to process.
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When using the trend analysis on 422,584 points, the processing is really slow, so every movement of the little wheels just drags. Can these little wheels gets labels, or even tool tips? When trying to rotate a graph, then with the speed, and trying to make refinements via the wheels, is gets painful.
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I have seen 3 crashes, and the little files have been sent when using the Voronoi map from Explore Data, Using Mean. The first 2 had the wizard going, the third just exploring the data all by its lonesome.
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