Latest Contributions by JonDeRose

‎08-06-2021

Hello Bryce, I have not come across this when converting geometric networks. Are you still encountering this issue? Is this reproducible?

‎08-06-2021

@GavinRunyon While it sounds as though it has the potential to cause confusion when placing trace locations and interpreting trace results due to the duplication of features, the current method of modeling would not flag these as errors as the two lines would not technically be connected, each would remain modeled as its own edge feature.

‎08-05-2021

@curtvprice We have a couple of ArcGIS Learn lessons in the planning stages at the moment to cover various usage scenarios. Within one, we aim to cover the conversion process, taking an NHD dataset and converting the existing geometric network into a trace network. Is this what you refer to when you mention a "tutorial of how to load NHD into the trace network." ?

‎07-21-2021

When you have an edge (line) connected to another edge midspan, as long as they share the same AG/AT the same principle applies because we are focused on edge elements instead of the line (edge) feature itself. In scenario 1 and 3, a system junction is placed (hidden) midspan on the line, updating the line to be composed of multiple edge elements. So, in this scenario the two edge elements share the same endpoint. For connectivity to be established midspan in the first place you need to ensure the line feature supports midspan connectivity by setting the edge connectivity policy for the AG/AT. A picture using your example 3 might explain it better: Another way of looking at it. When a line in the utility network has another feature connected midspan, it creates another edge element for the line. Edge elements compose the logical component of edge (or line) features in a utility network. A complex edge (which all UN line features are)... is a feature is associated with a set of junction and edge elements in the logical network. Hope that helps to clarify.

‎07-21-2021

@GavinRunyon If two edge elements share the same endpoint and have the same Asset group and Asset type, these features can connect without a user-defined intermediate junction or network rule. In this situation, a system junction is created and connectivity is established when the network topology is validated or enabled. If I understood your question properly, it sounds like your Water Line subtype Services share the same Asset group and Asset type. As a result they could be connected to each other without the creation of a specific network rule to model the split. The feature restrictions topic covers this in a little more detail. Thanks, Jon

‎06-29-2021

Emerson, Is this a reproducible from a backup? From the error it appears as though the upgrade is attempting to add the SUPPORTEDSUBNETWORKNAME field as a non-nullable field; however I am not sure why that would be the case. When upgrading a UN from v3 to v4 this field would be added to classes as a nullable field. How does this UN dataset differ from the other two that succeed? What is more concerning is the reference you made about the upgrade process unregistering your data as versioned. It would be interesting to investigate this further. I found the support case you referenced. If this remains reproducible I recommend that you work with the analyst through that case to provide the backup and reproducible case for analysis. Jon

‎06-25-2021

@NickHarvey I'm glad that Alex was able to provide you with the solution. This also highlighted an oversight in the documentation that should have been updated with the ArcGIS Pro 2.8 release. We've made the change for the next release. While the note still holds true when tracing through loops without directional devices, the updated note should read: "When loops are encountered during an upstream or downstream trace, trace results will return all features in a loop unless devices with a directional terminal configuration are present."

‎06-17-2021

@DavidDamian I am not able to reproduce the issue you reference in testing on Pro 2.7 or more recent releases. If the issue persists please reach out to Esri Support to investigate this issue. - Jon

‎06-16-2021

There are no plans for future development in ArcMap. It is possible to edit a Trace Network in ArcGIS Pro while projected on the fly, however. The trace network shares a common framework with the utility network but was designed with existing nonutility users of the geometric network in mind. Existing geometric networks can be easily converted into a trace network starting with ArcGIS Pro 2.6.

‎06-08-2021

Which Pro version are you using when this is encountered and are there any additional details reported in the server manager logs or via Fiddler when the issue is encountered? The error itself points to an issue with a recent geometry update, are any similar issues encountered with Validate? Jon

‎06-03-2021

@RobertThomson Using the data you provided I was able to reproduce and confirm that we've addressed this issue in the upcoming 2.9 release. I've exported this as BUG-000140438: Create Trace Network fails with Error 160084: "Cannot create a dirty area outside the topology's spatial domain." Jon

‎05-17-2021

@JamalNUMAN I would recommend creating a case with Support to review and determine if the issue you are encountering is reproducible and related to the defect you referenced or something else that the team needs to investigate.

‎04-30-2021

The sample workbench file outlined in the blog series: "Leveraging Data for External Systems - Automating Export Subnetwork using Data Interoperability" can be found below. Leveraging Data for External Systems - Automating Export Subnetwork using Data Interoperability https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/utility-network/data-management/exporting-subnetworks-using-data-interoperability/ Leveraging Data for External Systems - Automating Export Subnetwork using Data Interoperability - Part Two https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/utility-network/data-management/exporting-subnetworks-using-data-interoperability-part2/ @RenatoSalvaleon

‎04-12-2021

Good morning @LorenMueller Great question! There should not be any issues encountered using a later ArcGIS Pro client (such as 2.7) to interact and work with an earlier version of the utility network (such as UN v3). To put it another way, while you can use a newer client and server version to take advantage of new functionality, there is no obligation to upgrade the utility network's version to be "current" with the client or server release. While some capabilities and functionality may only be available with later versions of the utility network (such as working with nonspatial objects), this does not prevent the client from working with the earlier version. The compatibility chart you referenced is primarily concerned with the version of the utility network created through the combination of client and enterprise during creation or upgrade. The version of ArcGIS Pro and ArcGIS Enterprise determines the Utility Network Version value when creating or upgrading a utility network. Earlier ArcGIS Pro releases cannot open utility network datasets that participate in newer functionality. For example, you'd encounter issues if you tried to use ArcGIS Pro 2.4 and ArcGIS Enterprise 10.6.1 for sharing a utility network that has a Utility Network Version value of 4. Hope this helps to clarify. - Jon

‎04-12-2021

Hi there @OskarasAlšauskas Is your goal to test out the ArcGIS Utility Network itself? If exercising the utility network functionality, this can be done without the need of a ArcGIS Utility Network user type extension as long as you are using ArcGIS Pro at the Standard and Advanced license level. A single-user deployment of the utility network in a file geodatabase will enable you to leverage all of the utility network functionality available within an enterprise deployment without the need for a additional user-type extension license (with the exception of publishing and working with services).

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