Idea Not on the Move: Allow Pro to Publish to Server Explained......with Pro

06-06-2018 08:07 AM
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Many of us have one or two things about Pro that is a "fish or cut bait" barrier to migrating to Pro. For me, it's ArcGIS Pro Publish Services To ArcGIS Server. My thoughts, and those of many others, on that topic are well and clearly laid out in that idea, so no rehashing the debate here. But what's really frustrating the very many folks that are impacted by not being able to perform that critical task is the lack of any meaningful response to the clearly articulated concerns, use cases, needs for the requirement, and impact of not having it that have been repeated in the over 150 comments provided. After a "few beers" last night, a conspiracy theory developed that involved geography, learning how to symbolize things in Pro, and the top 100 Ideas by number of votes. Read on....

In the Kingdom of Sasquatchia, there are 100 states and the Constitution's only Amendment "Thee Shall Not Conform to the Agile Process" has survived numerous Supreme Court challenges and two referendums. A bill to codify "Allow ArcGIS Pro To Publish to Server Without Requiring Portal" has broad bipartisan support but not enough votes to override what the President (Big Foot) has been Tweeting "Is a terrible idea! Terrible! Bad Deal! Veto!!!". Concerned about chances of reelection and a trade war with the Boundless Union of Republics, Congress turned to the same pollsters that predicted the outcome of the most recent election. 

Their conclusion: There's no way to target campaign ads based on the geographic distribution of states that are successful in getting ideas adopted. Red and orange states are randomly scattered and green-ish states offer no clue based on their location as to why ideas languish or are not considered. The statisticians where consulted: 

When mapping the number of Vote normalized by number of Views we clearly see very few red states achieved success with a massive number of votes (over 100000) but then a some of the orange states achieved success with 3000 or less votes. Different statisticians were consulted: 

Which substantiates the theory that "Greater number of votes correlates to an idea being implemented". Cartographers were consulted: 

And they produced a map showing just those states with a status of "New"

Compared to all others states.

The Pro Chart Wizard was consulted:

And the campaign strategy manifests itself! Ideas still considered New also have a very high number of views but not a lot of votes when compared to Implemented Ideas with fewer views. 

I often here people say "Don't complain about politics if you don't vote". There's a lot of eyes on ArcGIS Pro Publish Services To ArcGIS Server yet, despite having the greatest number of views and comments of any of the top 100 Ideas (by number of votes), it has the least likely chance of becoming implemented, even less so than Google Maps Basemap . 

Get out the Vote! 

Let's make ArcGIS Pro Publish Services To ArcGIS Server the number one voted Idea on Geonet. Vote with your keyboard, not your mouse, and be sure to include your use case with your upvote! As Pro shows, ideas with a lot of votes get implemented! 

And if you concluded that not a single statistic in the maps show makes one iota of sense, just remember, Arc GIS Pro, not Russians, can swing the outcome of an election.....

Data used to create these wonderful maps in Pro is located at 

Esri Notable Contributor

Very interesting analysis, Tom   I skimmed through and I think that somewhere in there you mentioned that ideas with more votes are more often implemented.  Yeah, that can happen.  Sometimes for an idea to get a lot of votes though means sitting around for a long time.  And that isn't really ideal.  So sometimes you'll actually see an idea implemented with 1 vote.  And in Pro 2.2 I think we'll see something implemented that actually doesn't have any votes!  Interesting.

Well, I know that you're personally vested in seeing this idea implemented.  And we know that because we've spoken with you personally both from the Pro side as well as from the Enterprise side, just as we've been speaking with many customers interested in this same functionality.  We're listening, there are a lot of Esri eyes on this idea.  Its unfortunate that this didn't get the Reviewed status when it was submitted, but from an "action item" standpoint, whether an idea is New or Reviewed doesn't really affect our tracking of it.  While the total score is a consideration, we also keep a close eye on how quickly support for an idea is growing.  So we look at which ideas have grown most in the last month as well as over a year.  And to speak to your comments about number of Views and Comments, we also look at that.  

Anyway, just wanted to assure you and others who are tracking the idea, and who may also be formulating interesting analogies to the Idea scoring system, that it hasn't gone stealth under our radar.  It happens to be a very big blip smack dab on the radar screen...

MVP Frequent Contributor

Kory, is quite an indicator of what it means to be on the radar screen.......this totally screws up my statistics! 

MVP Esteemed Contributor

Nice Kory.... People publish too much stuff anyway   work local ... think global

Esri Notable Contributor

That link doesn't go anywhere for me, but based on recent activity on the thread, I think I'm in the general vicinity.

Occasional Contributor III

Since we are concerned with rate of change and popularity over time for ideas posted in ArcGIS Ideas here, I have created a new Idea to provide users with performance graphs to show the performance of an idea over time.  Please give it a vote up if you like it.

Add Performance Graphs to ArcGIS Ideas 

Sound like a good idea?

MVP Esteemed Contributor


Esteemed Contributor

Sounds great!!!!!

MVP Esteemed Contributor

Ha, funny and true.  One of the big rubs for me with "web GIS" and the rather cavalier approach Esri has to "just publish this or that service" is that it goes from having local hard drives being a data landfill to centralized servers and data stores becoming very large and expensive data landfills.  I am part of a group that manages ArcGIS Enterprise infrastructure, and this is going to kill us with Esri's self-contained, everything-as-a-service model.  If someone wants to buy a 4 TB hard drive and load it up with extraneous intermediate and temporary GIS data sets, fine by me, but what happens when thousands of users all treat Portal that way is a real mess.

New Contributor III

I think part of the reason for the foot dragging on Publishing from Pro to Enterprise like ArcMap does is that this idea is at conflict with Esri's strategy to move its user base onto the named user model.  I voted for this feature too as we continue to struggle to support all our use cases with Pro/Portal/Enterprise/Federated server scenario. 

New Contributor III

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