Phase Propagation not working - Open Device

[BillShoop]

Hello all, could someone please explain to me how/why the Phases Energized field is not getting updated to 'De-Energized' in the below scenario?

- I am setting the Normal Operating Status field to 'Open' on on a Three Phase Switch Device along with its contained and connected unit. 

- I validate network topology, run Update Subnetwork, and Export Subnetwork. The Phases Energized field is still set to 'ABC'

- Running a Trace Subnetwork in the Find Subnetwork pane results in the trace stopping at the Open Switch Device. So why is Phase Energized still set to 'ABC'?

We are using the PhasesNormal user edited field to propagate PhasesEnergized. Right now the PhasesNormal is still set to 'ABC', but shouldn't the Open Device cause the propagation to update PhasesEnergized to the features pass it to De-Energized?

[MikeMillerGIS]

That device is the barrier, so one side is techincally energized, so it gets the phases energized field.  Even if you turn off "Include Barriers" in the subnetwork definition, since it has a multi terminal configuration, it will still get the energized value.  The features downstream are reporting De-Energized, correct?

[BillShoop]

No, they are not. That's why I am so confused. On the screenshot below the left of the Red Open Device is ABC - This should be De-Energized

To the right of the Red Open Device it is ABC as expected

[RobertKrisher]

@BillShoop do the lines on either side of the switch belong to the same subnetwork? Are they connected to the same terminal on the switch?

[BillShoop]

Yes, both lines belong to the same subnetwork - They are not connected to the same terminal on the switch.

[MikeMillerGIS]

are you modeling units in that switch?  Are the units open?

[BillShoop]

Correct. We are modeling units and the ABC unit is set to Open with the Terminal Path on the Device set to None.

Device:

Unit:

[RobertKrisher]

it's odd that there are two three phase units in that device. Double check the status, phase, and connectivity associations of both units to ensure that they are stopping the trace.

A quick way to test this is to create a version and delete both units. If you do that, then there should be no way for the trace to go from one terminal of the switch to the other (terminal path = None, no units, no j-j connectivity).

[MikeMillerGIS]

What is the other unit?  Do both units have a phase change set?  If the other unit does not and not open, that is allowing the phase to push through.  

[BillShoop]

Firstly, I want to thank both of you @MikeMillerGIS and @RobertKrisher for the assistance! The switch only has one ABC unit that is connected to both terminals SS:S1 and SS:S2 of the Device. Isn't that why in the "Connected to" dropdown in my screenshot lists 2? Nonetheless, I did create a new version and delete all the Device's associations with the same result of the downstream line showing PhasesEnergized ABC.

We do not have the propagation configured to look at the Phase Change field (see image in original post). Instead we use the PhasesNormal field. As you can see in the screenshots, PhasesNormal is set to ABC for the line downstream of the Open Device. However, I would expect the Open status would cause the propagation to change the PhasesEnergized field to De-Energized while keeping the PhasesNormal at ABC. Am I mistaken?