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Make more buttons fit on the ribbon in smaller windows

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11-01-2023 09:21 PM
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wayfaringrob
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After years of having a dual-monitor setup, I now primarily use GIS on a 13" laptop, as do many of my students. Eek! Yikes! No! Bad!

Yes, this is not ideal. But much of this pain is artificially induced by Esri, and there is no reason it has to be this bad. For example:

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I am working with GIS on one side of the screen and another application on the other. To get to literally any tool or function in Pro, I have to guess which category it lives in, click, -- ope, not that category -- ok, let's try ... nope, hold on, I seem to be on the wrong ribbon tab entirely... click .. click .... ........ click .. click ... click ... ..... ope ... click ... oh there it is!!

It takes forever because Pro collapsed a bunch of huge buttons into parent huge button menus.

But is there a reason any of the buttons these parent buttons are hiding HAVE TO BE THIS BIG?

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Ok -- you usually have the screen real estate and Esri has decided it's more important to organize our icons into arbitrary categories and make them look like a children's toy than to show you more of them at a time and keep them in logical, consistent locations. I disagree, but suppose momentarily I concede this point. Are you telling me that the ribbon had to collapse these buttons because Esri thinks they need to be this big all the time?

Even if this were justifiable, why are we collapsing single buttons into ANOTHER SINGLE BUTTON?

I have to click the same snapping dropdown twice?

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Another:

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Who comes up with this logic? Who's testing this for usability? What are we all paying for?

On small windows, why not shrink the buttons to fit right on the ribbon, as if they were on a toolbar? They appear small on the quick action toolbar...and in ArcMap, which works much better on small screens...in fact, toolbars can be extended outside of the application frame. The buttons stay small all the time, and stay where you put them.

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In the same window, ArcMap is showing dozens of commands in about half the space that Pro takes to show you only cut, copy, and paste -- and that's only with two toolbars enabled. Granted, you have the QAT, but this is severely limited in its functionality and customizability, and unless you've done what I've done (adding nearly everything you use), it's not even close to comparable.

Better yet, just put the dang toolbars back: ArcGIS Pro: Option to Enable Dockable Toolbars and... - Esri Community

3 Comments
RandyCasey

I agree that ArcGIS Pro's ribbon resizing algorithm needs work, and I hope they do work on it, but you may find more expedient relief by looking into a portable monitor to help you reclaim some screen real estate. They are inexpensive, or at least the ASUS ones I've looked at are, and look good. Just a suggestion to ease eye fatigue and frustration a little. 

ThomasDilts

The pinning icon and allowing the ribbon to contract goes a long ways, however I wonder if smaller icons could still be an option. I wouldn't necessarily advocate for small icons as the default, but I think that it would be helpful for a huge number of people, especially if it could allow more space up top.

RobertMason

I would advocate for an option to return to smaller icons or dockable toolbars, ala ArcDesktop style.

The Ribbon style is useful for new or occasional users, and tying in with the MS range of products, but having to constantly navigate to different tabs to access functions means my click count in Pro has tripled compared to my workflow in Desktop.

And compared to Word/Excel/Powerpoint, I find in Pro I am in and out of the ribbons constantly. 

As someone who used to stack the toolbar three deep with buttons in Desktop, having it all accessible in one click would extremely beneficial productivity.