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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Server side/client side web application builders,

1. As in the stage of installation of ???ArcGIS Viewer for Flex??? we are required to specify the folders below:

??? Web server base folder
??? Web server base folder URL

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Then where should we keep these two folders? On the server or on the client machine?

2. How about these two folders in the case of ???ArcGIS Viewer for Silverlight????

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20725[/ATTACH]

3. In case of ???ArcGIS Web Applications Manager???, at which step we specify the hosting machine?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20726[/ATTACH]

Thank you

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Jamal

geonetadmin Jan 22, 2013 1:12 PM

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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Jamal, I'm beginning to think that this may be the root of several of your issues. From everything you have provided, I believe that you should not be using the ArcGIS Web Applications Manager.

Thank you Zachary for the answer.

A colleague provided me with the scenario below and it worked fine

1. The screenshot below shown the software that must be installed on the server side (named P2)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20975[/ATTACH]

2. The screenshot below shows the software that must be installed in the client side (named P1)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20976[/ATTACH]

3. The user of machine P1 (client machine) can build application on the IIS of the server machine by accessing the ???ArcGIS Web Applications Manager???

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20977[/ATTACH]

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Jamal

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LANDVEST Jan 15, 2013 2:44 AM
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Jamal,

These web applications are hosted on your Web Server of choice, presumably IIS(7-8). When I install these they are located within the IIS folder structure: inetpub\wwwroot. So if I understand your question correctly, its on the server side. I'm not sure how the client side comes into play here. Perhaps you could further explain the particular client and the role it assumes in your scenario?
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geonetadmin Jan 15, 2013 10:11 AM
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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Jamal,

These web applications are hosted on your Web Server of choice, presumably IIS(7-8). When I install these they are located within the IIS folder structure: inetpub\wwwroot. So if I understand your question correctly, its on the server side. I'm not sure how the client side comes into play here. Perhaps you could further explain the particular client and the role it assumes in your scenario?

Thank you Zachary for the answer.

in case these three web applications builders are installed on the machines of the clients then at which step we determine where to be stored and hosted?

My issue: where the web applications builders are installed? On the server machine or on the clients machines?

For example, if I got the ArcGIS server installed in the server machine and I wanted to install the �??ArcGIS viewer for the Silverlight�?� on my machine (client machine) and then to start building web applications

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20745[/ATTACH]

�?� How the �??ss�?� web application is determined to be saved on the �??C:\inetpub\wwwroot\ss�?�? Which C is this? Is it the C drive of the server machine or the client machine?

�?� How the URL is determined to be saved on the http://m-pc/ss/Default.aspx

My issue is simple: if the web application builders are installed on the client machine then how the generated web applications are directed to be saved and hosted on the server?

�?� Physical location:
�??C:\inetpub\wwwroot\ss�?�

�?� url location:
http://m-pc/ss/Default.aspx

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Jamal
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LANDVEST Jan 15, 2013 10:45 AM
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Ah yes, i believe i'm all clear now. I install/host the builders on our Web Server (IIS7). My desktop/client: i use a web browser to access the builder and start making applications.

I believe the short answer is: that is the c:\ of your server.

My question for you is this: Do you have existing web applications you built at 10.0 using the Web ADF? If not, i'm not sure there is a need to have that installed. http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//0154000002p0000000
The ADF continues to ship with ArcGIS 10.1 for Server as a separate setup named ArcGIS Web Applications. This exists solely for the purpose of supporting legacy applications.
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geonetadmin Jan 15, 2013 12:15 PM
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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Ah yes, i believe i'm all clear now. I install/host the builders on our Web Server (IIS7). My desktop/client: i use a web browser to access the builder and start making applications.

I believe the short answer is: that is the c:\ of your server.

My question for you is this: Do you have existing web applications you built at 10.0 using the Web ADF? If not, i'm not sure there is a need to have that installed. http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//0154000002p0000000

Many thanks for the prompt answer.

At present, I�??m installing all the software on my machine (client machine) for testing the system. Therefore, I didn�??t feel the difference. Later, I want to transfer this system into Server-Client system.

I installed the software below on my machine (client):
1. IIS
2. ArcGIS Server 10.1
3. ArcGIS Desktop 10.1
4. ArcGIS Viewer for Flex 3.0
5. ArcGIS Viewer for Silverlight 3.0
6. ArcGIS Web Applications Manager

In the server-client scenario

Server machine
1. IIS
2. ArcGIS Web Adaptor
3. ArcGIS Server 10.1

Client machine
1. ArcGIS Desktop 10.1
2. ArcGIS Viewer for Flex 3.0
3. ArcGIS Viewer for Silverlight 3.0
4. ArcGIS Web Applications Manager

Then how the web application developed on the client machine will be redirected to the server machine so that the URL will carry the name of the server machine instead of the name of the client machine?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20753[/ATTACH]

In brief, what scenario should I follow in case of deploying the system in the server/client environment?

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Jamal
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LANDVEST Jan 16, 2013 4:15 AM
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Jamal, I'm still concerned about your Web applications manager installation. I think that may be part of our issue here. Do you have existing applications from 10.0 and prior already built? If not, you do not need it installed.
The ADF continues to ship with ArcGIS 10.1 for Server as a separate setup named ArcGIS Web Applications. This exists solely for the purpose of supporting legacy applications. The setup includes ArcGIS Web Applications Manager, a legacy version of Manager that allows you to view and modify your web applications.

As to your testing/development environment, you may want to start another thread, or maybe another user will offer advice regarding that. I'm not so sure that I would have gone as far as installing all of the server related software on my desktop to support a development environment, especially since you'll have to migrate that entire deployment to your server-client scenario after the development phase.

Personally, I'd set up a working server environment and host my applications/builders/viewers on there and just not make the derived applications available until things were working properly. But I have no idea about your production environment or what license opportunities you have at your disposal (mine are limited, so I cannot support an EDN sandbox for example).

Please get back to me regarding the Web Applications Manager.
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geonetadmin Jan 20, 2013 2:02 AM
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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Jamal, I'm still concerned about your Web applications manager installation. I think that may be part of our issue here. Do you have existing applications from 10.0 and prior already built? If not, you do not need it installed.

As to your testing/development environment, you may want to start another thread, or maybe another user will offer advice regarding that. I'm not so sure that I would have gone as far as installing all of the server related software on my desktop to support a development environment, especially since you'll have to migrate that entire deployment to your server-client scenario after the development phase.

Personally, I'd set up a working server environment and host my applications/builders/viewers on there and just not make the derived applications available until things were working properly. But I have no idea about your production environment or what license opportunities you have at your disposal (mine are limited, so I cannot support an EDN sandbox for example).

Please get back to me regarding the Web Applications Manager.

Many thanks for the elaboration and contribution.

I have started another thread to better explain what I�??m aiming at.

Sure, I�??m using the �??ArcGIS Web Applications Manager�?� provided with the 10.1 version of ArcGIS server. No prior web applications were built with 10.0 or so.

http://forums.arcgis.com/threads/75653-Building-web-applications-on-the-server-machine-while-working-on-the-client-machine?p=265293

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Jamal
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LANDVEST Jan 22, 2013 2:47 AM
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Many thanks for the elaboration and contribution.

I have started another thread to better explain what I�??m aiming at.

Sure, I�??m using the �??ArcGIS Web Applications Manager�?� provided with the 10.1 version of ArcGIS server. No prior web applications were built with 10.0 or so.

http://forums.arcgis.com/threads/75653-Building-web-applications-on-the-server-machine-while-working-on-the-client-machine?p=265293

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Jamal

Jamal, I'm beginning to think that this may be the root of several of your issues. From everything you have provided, I believe that you should not be using the ArcGIS Web Applications Manager.
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Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Jamal, I'm beginning to think that this may be the root of several of your issues. From everything you have provided, I believe that you should not be using the ArcGIS Web Applications Manager.

Thank you Zachary for the answer.

A colleague provided me with the scenario below and it worked fine

1. The screenshot below shown the software that must be installed on the server side (named P2)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20975[/ATTACH]

2. The screenshot below shows the software that must be installed in the client side (named P1)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20976[/ATTACH]

3. The user of machine P1 (client machine) can build application on the IIS of the server machine by accessing the ???ArcGIS Web Applications Manager???

[ATTACH=CONFIG]20977[/ATTACH]

best

Jamal
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