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NCDOT uses separate routes with shared centerline segments for the sections corouted. For us via events would not work as our coroutes can be across multiply routes and managing topology of event records across multiply routes seems difficult at best. In Pro, I have seen options that appears to allow a single event record to traverse multiply routes as one record and that might work to capture coroutes via events. https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/latest/help/production/location-referencing-pipelines/what-is-event-behavior.htm#ESRI_SECTION1_B2191DC87B5A4BA99BB5BC5AF278A4A8 Hope that helps.
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Thanks Kevin. I will pass this along as we are planning to use 10.8.1 in Production next year.
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Any indication if the same behavior exists in other versions?
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With #3 your method or the append events they are sorta the same and have the same issue, a way to apply event behaviors after those edits. I am assuming you have event data downstream of a realign that you want to keep the same x,y and have the measures update. If you want the measure to stay but the x,y change not an issue.
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We don’t do any lrs edits in mass at 10.5 as our routeid schema doesn’t really support that and have done very few event editing in mass. If your routeids stay the same, you could export the events beforehand and use append events to reload the events. You do run the risk of downstream events not updating measures correctly on realigns and adjustments. Be interested in what @AmitHazra or @CliveReece might have in their bag of tricks that might help.
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We modeled the same direction in a previous system. I think you are correct that is not supported in any version. A workaround is to coroute the routes with the same beginning and ending points, that way any changes before the split both routes measures are updated with the same value.
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Pro supports Branch routes but I think your suggesting something else. https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/2.7/help/production/roads-highways/complex-shapes.htm Sounds like your saying that if a known distance from an intersection, you want the routes zero point to start there and would it also stay that same distance if the intersection point moved or keep the same x,y? (colin.png) For us, if we have to represent the other side as shown above we would create the whole route starting at the end of the other route and ending at the beginning of the other route. (NC_divided_route.png)
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I misspoken on the using the Create Route tool to create overlapping slices (must have been a previous version/patch cause I recall us doing that) as the software will not allow you to create the route but you can use the Reassign Route tool to unintentionally create the issue at 10.5.1 SP2. Objectid 1242489 was created this morning, the existing route (50097643023) had a From Date of before 3/23/2021 and I used a From Date before the current timeslice 1/23/2021 to reassign the route. Our timeslice look as such now: 50097627023 FrmDate 1/23/2021 ToDate <null> 50097627023 FrmDate 3/23/2021 ToDate <null> 50097643023 FrmDate 9/15/2020 ToDate 1/23/2021
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“I am just thinking through the process of retired routes, making new routes and making sure we aren't using the same one from the past or anything like that.“ We reuse routeid numbers all the time. At least for us we like to see the historic representation of that route though time. One thing to watch out for is unintentional gapped routes, you use the routeid in one part of the county and create or reassign that same routeid in another part of the county. Your 1/2 mile route goes from 1/2 mile to 6 miles and the measures on the far side start at some number other then zero. The check would be to review your multipart routes from time to time if your your data practices allow multipart routes like we do. The other problem can be routes having more then one active timeslice. You can have one routeid with a from date of 10/25/2021 and create a new route with the same routeid with a from date of 8/25/2021. You can write a query for the active timeslices but not through all time if you allow multiple route actions on the same day like we do. An example of this would be if a project realigned the route in more then one location. You would realign twice on the same day. Another would be if a route is realigned say the middle of the route and that route was also extended or trimmed because of the project. The route actions would use the same date. Well they would for us. Your route editing rules might be different. HTH
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The pdf is current missing the FHWA slidedeck. Will update when I get a copy.
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