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As one of veteran ESRI enterprise users, very pleased to see ArcGIS 10.5 /Pro 2 having significant improvements, especially, with Ortho Mapping on raster. With this module in ArcGIS, right now we can directly build 'more reliable' block bundle from VHR stereo pairs of imagery and then generate 'more accurate' point clouds, which can be used for advanced LAS classification, 3D feature extraction, and further 3D modeling 'completely within' ArcGIS and CityEngine, in particular, in urban, industrial, and forest areas. Thanks for great effort, raster team! Certainly, looking forward to having 2D feature extraction module available in ArcGIS sooner, which should be based on object based/ oriented framework like Bayasian Networks or NN. Regrads, ++++++++++++++++++++++ PS., For generation of point cloud from stereo pair, we used to get it done through eATE (LPS, ERDAS). For 3D feature extaction, we used to use ERDAS Stereo (LPS, ERDAS). https://hexagongeospatial.fluidtopics.net/reader/~P7L4c0T_d3papuwS98oGQ/HpYERGtlhff25pudznCQaw https://hexagongeospatial.fluidtopics.net/reader/~P7L4c0T_d3papuwS98oGQ/C9lfWwamTAEoc_ap6EfxpQ For automation of 2D feature extraction (footprints, tree stands, roads, etc.), have been using ERDAS Objective for almost a decade. https://hexagongeospatial.fluidtopics.net/reader/~P7L4c0T_d3papuwS98oGQ/t9N_rS~dAbcCSfIbif2rkw
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Thanks for the link. It looks that we need more time to explore all those GP utilities and workflows for efficiently pre-processing LAS datasets in ArcGIS, including Locate Outliers ... Until now, ArcGIS have offered many effective GP tools and workflows to help enterprise customers to deal with 'well-processed & well-organized' LAS point cloud, including 'manage, use, analyze LAS data, even extract DEM and building roofs from LAS data'. Hopefully, ArcGIS users will see some efforts from ESRI to help effectively pre-process LAS point cloud soon ...
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Thanks Gunter, Please help provide ArcGIS Documentation link that shows a way to find out outlines in LAS (QA/QC). To get a well-processed DSM data (rather than DEM/DTM or normalized DSM) from those old & poor LAS point cloud is our major goal. Regards
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Hey, guys Many of our LAS data (which were not processed/ classified by the data vendors) urgently need edit and clean up, in particular, detection and removal of massive ‘outlines’. After well done in this way, we expect that the results of LAS data can well represent DSM (digital surface model). Of course, those DSM will be used to do further processing and analysis. The question is: In ArcGIS, any effective GP tools can be used to assist us to meet this goal? Ideally, a GP tool that utilizes RANSAC algorithm (random sample consensus) is available. If not, any alternatives? Please advice
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Hello, Mir, If combining the gp tools 'Manage Map Server Cache Tiles' & 'Import Map Server Cache' in your Python, it should be pretty straightforward, because you are dealing with map cache tiles, which also works fine for us to partially update map cache tiles (with AOIs). However, when using the gp tools 'Manage Tile Cache' & 'Import Tile Cache' that is used to deal with raster image cache tiles directly from mosaic dataset (not from map service), we are facing the above 'update' issues. ++++++++ In our enterprise, the corporate security policy does not allow to directly update 'active' services on the servers by any client applications like ArcGIS. In other words, firstly prepare the 'updated' cache tiles folder without touching the servers (prefer 'Import Tile Cache' rather than 'Import Map Server Cache'), and then just quickly replace the affected levels in the OLD cache folder usually located at NAS with the above 'updated' ...
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Mir, The workflow is reasonable. In your tool, do you use 'pure' Python (saying, PySAL), or combine any 'existing' arcpy functions/tools (for example, 'Import Tile Cache'), in order to ensure the replacement of OLD cache with new cache spatially (under certain AOI)? If yes, which arcpy functions/tools can help you to do so? Thx
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Hello, data analysis and business intelligent team, As well known, with the assistance of Exploratory Spatial Data Analysis (ESDA) tools in ArcGIS, we can get deep insight about our data, so that those analysis results can help us to choose the best interpolation algorithm and also the right analysis methods. Similarly, the Exploratory Regression (ER) analysis tool is also widely used for data analysis practitioners to easily find a properly specified OLS model (Ordinary Least Squares). Sometimes, it certainly works good, especially, when no extreme outliers in the datasets. However, many factors and technical considerations drive us to consider the combination of both ESDA and ER analysis methods together in practice, because we believe that will significantly improve the reliability of the analysis model and prediction accuracy, in particular, for detection of outliers (spatially over time) ... So, as data analysts, please share any relevant thoughts about this? For example, advantages and benefits, some cautions ... when combing both together in your applications. Regards,
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Thx, Mir, Those links look interesting. However, doubt on the suitability and feasibility. Anyhow, do you have successful practice on the above scenario (i.e., 'partially' update cache with new cache, including certain scales under certain AOIs, which are generated by ArcGIS 10.x Pro 1.x)? If yes, please share the details. Thanks in advance ... Regards,
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Hello, Raster Team ESRI, Can you advise if there is any effective IT approach or workflow to 'partially' replace the existing (large & old) cache with new and smaller cache folder? The background is: With ArcGIS 10.x, we do have efficient IT method to 'completely' replace the existing old cache (level by level or scale by scale) with the brand new cache folder, without stopping cache service. So, we do expect that an effective IT way does exist to efficiently help us to 'partially' update the existing large and old cache (saying, nationally, globally) with the small portions of latest cache (i.e., AOIs at certain scales), which are frequently required over time to update in operation. For last 6 years, on our practice, the GP tools with 'Import Cache Tiles' and 'Export Cache Tiles' (with AOIs) in ArcGIS 10.x /Pro 1.x demonstrate not only very poor performance, but also 'mostly' fail to transfer cache (at certain levels or certain areas, i.e., empty). Not sure if it is reported before by other 'enterprise' users or can be reproducible to you team. And also wondering if those symptoms are enough to indicate that those two GP tools do not reliably/stably copy cache from the new cache folder to the old cache folder under specific AOIs in practice. Regards, +++++++++++++++ PS, Common errors during updating the old cache folder with the new cache for certain AOIs at certain scales showed as follows. ... Executing: ImportTileCache CacheImagery_ImageServer p1_2017_REDO 64000;32000;16000;8000 AMD_Cache2017_P1 Start Time: Sun Jun 04 13:08:51 2017 Importing tile cache using 32 parallel instances. Importing tile cache for feature with OID: 1. Importing cache for scale: 64000. WARNING 001478: Failed to import cache for scale : 64000 Importing cache for scale: 32000. Success to import cache for scale: 32000 Importing cache for scale: 16000. WARNING 001478: Failed to import cache for scale : 16000 .....
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Amin, I roughly tested it, which looks that the tool itself can work on rooftops and/ or walls (facades), because it relies on your selection in advance. Just share below for reference: · On PV application, some good Solar models like SurfSun3D offer accurate and efficient approach to estimate solar potentials (urban 3D buildings rooftops & walls) in open-source GRASS GIS. https://beststpbstucourse.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/an-open-source-3d-solar-radiation-model-integrated-with-a-3d-geographic-information-system.pdf · Google Project Sunroof presents another effective way to estimate solar potentials for many of US cities (urban buildings), which combines 3D DSM (from stereo airphotos or WorldView-3) with a cut-edge algorithm ‘Random sample consensus’, which sounds wonderful (just not sure if those estimations are accurate enough). https://google.com/get/sunroof/data-explorer-methodology.pdf
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sorry for late, Wei Hua (I did not see yours until today), Last 7 years, we firmly moved from the classic image analysis workflow to object-based, and have been gradually using Erdas Objective to update GIS database and (landuse) change detection over time in operation, meanwhile closely watching ESRI and other partners on this, in particular, seamlessly with imagery within Mosaic Dataset or from Image Analysis: For ArcGIS Pro 1.4 (10.5), SVM offers better landuse classification results, but still do not directly produce feature extraction (roads, buildings, etc.), because of no 'effective' generalization tools available in ArcGIS (refer to the Doc). For Erdas Obective, it uses 7-layer vision framework (especially with Bayesian network models), which works very accurately and effectively on the extraction and cleanup of features (roads, buildings,...), especially if only interested in new features and changes (which are real scenario in GEO Intelligence). Please refer to their Doc. Worth to investigate if hierarchical kernel descriptors framework with SVM (already available in 10.5 & 1.4) can produce better results. It looks true, which is based on many researchers. In addition, for the Segmentation & Classification toolset from 32-bit ArcGIS 10.4/10.5, the performance is very poor, which looks that it does not really support the multicore algorithms. Personally, it should be investigated to ensure functional on both multicore CPUs (32-bit, 64-bit) and even GPUs (64-bit) as well.... Regards,
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Jessica, From your description (drone photos, location table), it is challenging for you to get it done "automatically" in ArcGIS Pro, because the camera model is missing. From our experience on 2D/3D drone photos/videos (like DJI), you are still required to use photogrammetry package (like Pix4D) to do that first. Pls refer to http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/202576/drone-aerial-imagery-to-qgis Also you can try ortho mapping workspace in ArcGIS Pro, once you get that drone camera orientation parameters... (If having many photos without camera parameters, in practice it is not recommended to directly use ArcGIS/ ArcGIS Pro Georeferencing Tool for this type of purpose)
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Hopefully, ESRI will take positive action on this to support the enterprise needs. In fact, some good stuffs have been already done in the development environment through the use of open source Python (Conda) and R (RStudio/ MRS) within ArcGIS Pro. It is time to move those into the enterprise to support operations...
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thx, dan, In fact, the question's core nature is: is it possible for ArcGIS Pro to improve the manager, which will help determine the package dependencies tree and install automatically from the local repository. Na matter which one, conda or pip ... Here, TensorFlow or openCV is just listed as an example here. What we really want is to install scikit-learn, scikit-image, etc. behind the firewall ... regards,
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Hello, fellows, With Conda and Python Package Manager, ArcGIS Pro 1.4 offers a great way to install and update external open-source Python packages. Plus with the support of R (Microsoft R Server) via R-ArcGIS binding, ArcGIS Pro 1.3/ 1.4 has gradually become an innovation platform in development environment, especially for raster and data analytics ... However, it is still challenging for us to install and update behind the firewall (in the enterprise environment), particularly Python packages in ArcGIS Pro. For example, first to determine and download all dependencies of the Python package (saying, TensorFlow, openCV, etc.), including dependencies of those dependencies (dependency tree), into a local repository (copy and transfer to this repository), and then automatically to install from the local repository behind the firewall. So, does ESRI have plan to improve the Python Package Manager sooner? Or, is there any 'effective & reliable' way to automatically create a local Python package dependencies and dependencies of those dependencies first, and then automatically install those into ArcGIS Pro from the local repository in the enterprise (via conda, pip or any other)? (Relatively, much easier for us to do with R packages and dependencies for ArcGIS Pro ..., even not effective) Regards, Larry @ ARAMCO
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