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Shapefile displaced to south pole

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01-19-2015 09:39 AM
BenjaminHerrmann
New Contributor II

Hello community,

I am a Geography student and very new to ArcGIS. Back in August I started a project which asked of me as one of the project tasks to map some paleorivers in Bolivia. So I got into ArcGIS a little and started the work. That worked pretty well and decided to work on other project tasks before continuing my GIS work. When I opened up my ArcGIS project again last week the features I created back then were all moved south of the south pole. Let's look at some screenshots.

world view.PNG

This is where the rivers and the reference image both map: south of the south pole (where the red cross with the "3" are)

basemap zoomed to desired area.PNG

This is a zoom on the desired area. Clearly, there are no lines shaped here.

zoom to layer unspecified rivers.PNG

Those are the lines I drew back in August. They match some paleoriver beds in the map above, but are not shown on the map any more. Look at the display scale, it reads "1 : 0,44" which means that they are displayed smaller than the feature in real life. Of course, this is rubbish, as the displays scale in the first image is 1:40'000.

coordinate system.PNG

When I right-click on "Layers" and go to "Properties" and then "Source" everything seems correct. UTM Zone 19S is the required projection within which I was asked to work. I shouldn't change that.

When I started in August, I opened ArcMap and opened the basemap layer, set the coordinate system of the "Layers" to UTM 19S and found some tutorial on creating a shapefile from scratch, which I followed and image 2 was the result so far, only that it was showing at the correct location back then.

I don't really need any basemap that is provided in ArcGIS, though. The work I am doing requires me essentially to import an image into ArcMap, georeference that image in the right coordinate system, and then map the rivers on that image.

Since that image is not any different from the utilised basemap so far, it would still be nice to know what went wrong.

Here's more:

This is what I obtain from a right click on "unspecified_rivers" > "Properties" > "Source"

Data SourceValue

Data Type:

Shapefile Feature Class
Shapefile:D:\GIS_maps\San_Borja_RF\unspecified_rivers.shp
Geometry Type:Line
Coordinates have Z values:No
Coordinates have measures:No
Projected Coordinate System:WGS_1984_UTM_Zone_19S
Projection:Transverse_Mercator
False_Easting:500000,00000000
False_Northing:10000000,00000000
Central_Meridian:-69,00000000
Scale_Factor:0,99960000
Latitude_Of_Origin:0,00000000
Linear Unit:Meter
Geographic Coordinate System:GCS_WGS_1984
Datum:D_WGS_1984
Prime Meridian:Greenwich
Angular Unit:Degree

Following an image on the image I should use:

zoom to layer imported map.PNG

I georeferenced some points by right-clicking on the crosshairs and then putting in the X and Y-values I got from this Image:

google earth zoomed to desired area.PNG

You can see on this image, that we are in the sector "19 L" at 743 km East and 8362 km South. Now, what I noticed is that as the longitudinal information may be correct, the latitudinal is measured from the South Pole, or more exactly 2000m south of the South Pole, because as you travel south, the numbers decrease but never under a value of 2000m.

This is the link table of the control points as I entered them 2 hours ago:

link table of control points.PNG

As you can see, the numbers match those in the Google Earth image and I entered the Y-coordinate with the negative algebraic sign, because I thought it measured from the equator. Still, I tried to flip the minus to positive in the link table and the reference image didn't really move anywhere north of the South Pole.

Just ask, if you need any more information. In the meantime, I will start over and this time start with the reference image and then draw the lines.

I am excited to see your answers. Please promote this thread to anyone you think might know what mistakes I made while working on this project. You may, of course, also only answer to one of the presented problems. Any insight is appreciated.

Cheers,

Benny

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XanderBakker
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Hi Melita Kennedy‌, it is very kind of you that you want Todd to have the points, but I strongly advise not to change the correct answer. You deserve the recognition that you received, but more importantly, the correct answer is the one other users stumble upon and should be easily recognizable. When it comes to points, a helpful is as valuable as a correct answer. If you haven’t done so, you could mark Todd’s answer as helpful.

Kind regards, Xander

BenjaminHerrmann
New Contributor II

Chamged it anyways, since Todd's answer is actually what I was looking to do. Like you mentioned correctly, if people are reading through my question and have just that problem, Todd's answer will help them. In his answer, there is "like Melita said", so they'll go find what Melita said. I think this will help more people than what I did before. Otherwise people might not read all the answers and leave frustrated, opening another post on the same matter, wasting their own and the respondents' time, since they will already have answered the same question already.

Anyways, I'll go do some measurements, now.

Benny

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