What is your take on ArcGIS Pro
Dan, I'll do my best to provide some updates here:
Copy Parallel: Copy Parallel tool in PRO should be in 2.2 this summer.
- You can no longer perform statistics on-the-fly for a field in a table.
Yes you can. What's new in ArcGIS Pro 2.1—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop
- Viewing and using Tables is a royal pain in ArcGIS Pro. You can make a field wider in order to view lengthy text, but it will go right back to the default width if you scroll around in the table at all. Whenever you change the width of a field, the table will automatically scroll back to the top. There are also times when I have added data to a field, clicked the save button, and then the next time I view the table, that data I just entered is gone.
When you encounter issues like this, they should be reported to technical support so that an issue can be entered with the development team. This is likely related to Stop the ArcGIS Pro table view jumping around when I calculate attributes and that dev team has an issue entered that they're working on to get this fixed.
- I like to customize the Editor Tools Gallery by dragging other tools onto it from the Modify Features list, but the next time I open the Project, the tools I added are gone, and I have to drag them all over again.
Pro 2.2 this summer will have a customizable Edit tools gallery like we currently have for analysis tools:
- In ArcMap I can easily customize a Legend that I have added to a map, but in ArcGIS Pro it is an absolute nightmare to try to customize a Legend. It takes way too many steps and is in no way an easy process.
Any specifics on this one? The layout team is looking at improving the legend creation/modification experience, so if there are specific details about things that don't work well for you/are hard to find, etc. that would be good input for that team.
- The Attribute Transfer function in ArcMap is NOT available in ArcGIS Pro. This is one of the tools I use the most in ArcMap.
I'll check on this internally. In the meantime, I don't see it on the ArcGIS Ideas site so you might submit a new idea noting this as an ArcMap equivalency issue. I also searched and don't see that anything has been logged with technical support. I see that you're asking for it, and below in this thread, Steve Cole is asking for it, so there are bound to be a number of other users who really need this in order to bring their work over into Pro. Getting a better gauge on how many users that is will definitely help prioritize this.
- There is no Draw toolbar in ArcGIS Pro. I love the ability in ArcMap to add graphics in either Data View or Map View, but it is lacking in ArcGIS Pro.
This? Graphics and free text in ArcGIS-Pro maps!
- There is no Fillet Tool in ArcGIS Pro.
It's on the list. Mentioned in this thread https://community.esri.com/ideas/14266-add-basic-editing-tools-to-pro-edit-toolbar?commentID=56102#c... and Where are the fillet, trim, and extend tools in ArcGIS Pro?
Hi Kory,
I had a go at setting up a "Data Management" project in Pro and most of my observations still stand.
In the comparison between getting a feature's coordinate system details in Catalog vs Pro we still have Catalog come out ahead once you have opened the Properties dialog.
In Catalog you scroll up & down to see all the key info. In Pro you have to scroll, click to select a category, then scroll some more. That sums up a lot of Pro experiences: A prettier interface forces a user to click & scroll a lot more than in ArcMap/Catalog.
Achieving the same task should not take longer no matter how pretty the interface.
In an ideal world the Catalog experience should have evolved into an interface similar to that of Directory Opus. It is a multi-tabbed, multi-frame Windows Explorer replacement. I am sure the Australian company would be happy to license their framework to Esri.
Is there a way to disable tooltips in Pro?
Having these little dialogs try to keep up with a fast workflow is just distracting. It does not matter if a computer is fast enough; due to the all pervasive "beautiful" interface the tooltips have to fade in & out by which time I have moved on or already started an operation on the folder/layer/map/
Please tell me what the value of the tooltip is in this screenshot?
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the feedback. Starting with the easy question, is there a way to turn off the hover tips on Catalog View/Pane?
Yes, from Catalog Pane, turn those off from the burger:
If you're in Catalog View, turn them off from the Options group in the ribbon:
Can we get a bit more detail on this:
In Catalog you scroll up & down to see all the key info. In Pro you have to scroll, click to select a category, then scroll some more. That sums up a lot of Pro experiences: A prettier interface forces a user to click & scroll a lot more than in ArcMap/Catalog.
When you say that you scroll up and down to see all the key info, where in the Properties dialog are you talking about?
Here I'm on the XY Coordinate System tab:
I can scroll through different coordinate systems, but need to click on different tabs to get other Feature Class Properties.
In the current release of Pro, we aren't exposing some of those properties (like spatial reference) from Catalog, only from the layer. ArcGIS Pro: Include/Add Extent and Spatial Reference to Feature Class Source Tab will be in Pro 2.2, so let's use that as a closer comparison to ArcCatalog.
When I open the Feature Class Properties, you are correct that I will have to expand something like Extent or Spatial Reference if I want to see those properties.
But from a "number of clicks" standpoint, I'm not sure how that is different than having to click on a tab in the ArcCatalog UI:
Can you help me understand specifically where in the UI the problem is in Pro vs. ArcCatalog? Your input is valuable, I just need to make sure that I get what you're talking about so that we can work with the feedback.
Thank you!
Hi Kory,
I was referring to the Properties dialog for raster layers - as per the original comparison. My ESP transmitter must be broken. It is a different case for vector layers but, ...... Catalog is still ahead once the properties box is open with a single click to get to the tab instead of a scroll & click 🙂
If you happened to have looked at the coordsys tab of a previous layer it will come up as selected the next time round.
Tell the developers to print a copy of the Amazon 1-Click button and frame it next to their monitor 😉
It is all about reducing friction in tasks.
Pro is competing with the years of development of Desktop but there seems to be a disconnect in the UI vs UX design philosophy. You also have to incorporate more than a decade of muscle memory / reflex in the design criteria.
As GIS people we (most) are organically built to search for new & better ways of doing things. We get cranky when we have a good way and are told we will be improving by going backwards. Many in the industry are also typical introverts so the actual number of unhappy people are likely to be higher than the numbers verbalizing in forums such as these. In almost all cases the discontent can be reduced by changing the messaging going to customers. I am sure Esri has a team of messaging experts but they may need to be let out the door and into the real world.
Brilliant on the "Show Popups" setting.
Last I looked for something like this was in <2.0 and I missed it in the What's New or Release Notes for 2.1.
Thanks for the clarification, Chris. It looks like in Pro there was a 'Find data source properties' search box added. This is probably because of the amount of scrolling that needs to be done to get to raster properties.
So if I'm looking for the coordinate system, I start to search for that and it takes me to the raster's Spatial Reference information:
But yes, I'll admit that you have to click again to expand the Spatial Reference info.
In playing with this, it looks like there could be some improvements made to the search capabilities, so I'll make sure that team is aware of that opportunity.
Thank you for the continued input. We are listening and conveying feedback to the development teams.
Cheers,
Kory
