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Georeferencing > Unable to add control points after changing Coordinate or Projected Systems

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2 weeks ago
SaraJL
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Hello everyone!

I'm running into an issue in ArcGIS Pro (latest version) - I'm trying to georeference an image, and I'm able to add control points until I change the Coordinate/Projected System. For example:

  • Add an image
  • Add some control points - save the Image
  • Close out the Georeference window
  • Switch to a different Coordinate or Projected System (any one)
  • If you reopen the Georeference panel for the image - most of the Georeference panel is grayed out

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Any thoughts? I've been finding the only way to reactivate the buttons is to completely delete the image and start from scratch again. I know in the past I was able to re-add control points multiple times, so it's a little odd.

Thank you!

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RTPL_AU
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Hi @SaraJL 

I think it is made that way in order to not get unexpected behaviour or have images woosh off to the never-never.

Technically it isn't big deal (don't let surveyors see this)  if you mix some datums of the same basic projection- for us skipping between WGS84 UTM & GDA2020 MGA is ~2m difference and for an image scanned off a paper map that hung in a geologist's cupboard for 50 years it really doesn't matter. 
Processing the real transformation takes a few cpu ticks but overall it is just a translate/rotate to get pretty close or dead on.

The same cannot be said for mixing your Lamberts & geographics, etc. While numerically/mathematically possible for Pro to figure out what's going on and keep track of it all behind the scenes during the process, I feel it is a good thing to just not allow it. I don't see how they can make it performant and allow any combination of projections out there in the wild.  

There are some transformations that introduce a level of error - I don't know how that would  be managed in a georeferencing process where the introduced error could be larger than the image accuracy (e.g. high res image with visible surveyed monuments, etc). 

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SaraJL
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@RTPL_AU I think the main challenge was the image that is being used for referencing - there wasn't a projection or coordinate system that was noted for that particular image. So I had to do some guess work a bit - but it ended up not quite working, so I needed to switch it to something else.

In the past - I didn't run into the issue where the panel would completely lock out. For example - I had to create some post-WW2 boundaries of Germany and France for a client's book project once, and that also required a little bit of guesswork because the historical map image didn't quite fit with the typical Mercator projection. So I could close the georeferencing panel, try a different projection, and then when I reopened the georeferencing I would usually have to redo the control points, but the entire panel wouldn't be grayed out. 

In this case, the only way I could reactivate anything was to completely delete the image and re-add a new one from scratch. I couldn't even switch back to the previous projection to reactivate the panel, which was a little odd. It was almost like it was caching information in some weird way.

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DEAF_PROBERT_68
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Hi,  I am trying to remember that I had the same issue but in a different way ... your steps is kind of confuse to me but I guess maybe you have a different workflow.....

So I googled and found this and see if you have not tried this until I post this .

https://support.esri.com/en-us/knowledge-base/problem-georeferencing-tools-are-disabled-in-arcgis-pr...

 

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