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Extent indicator leader options greyed out

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11-28-2022 08:40 AM
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IlkaIllers1
Frequent Contributor

I would like to draw a leader from my extent indicator to the second map frame, but the option is greyed out. I couldn't find any documentation about why that might be. What do I need to change for this to work?

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AubriOtis
Esri Regular Contributor

That option gets disabled when the extent indicator area is larger than the visible map frame area. Since the extent indicator is too large to draw you can't add a leader line. So in the picture below if I try to add an extent indicator to map frame 1 showing the extent of map frame 2, that extent indicator won't draw on the map because the area of map frame 2 is more extensive than that of map frame 1. In that case my leader option becomes disabled. 

If I had an extent indicator to map frame 2 showing the extent of map frame 1 then the extent indicator draws as expected and I can add a leader.

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With that in mind the first thing I suggest is checking that your extent indicator is pointing to the right map frame. If that doesn't solve the problem you might try readding it altogether, it's possible Pro got stuck in a weird state and just needs to redo the extent indicator operation to get out of it. 

Cheers,

Aubri

 

Cheers,
Aubri
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IlkaIllers1
Frequent Contributor

No, the extent is definitely smaller - it shows as expected on the map, no problem. I tried to remove the extent indicator but it keeps happening when I add it again. Weird thing is, I can add a leader by right clicking on the extent in the TOC, choosing "Remove leader" (which adds the leader). "Add leader" removes it. I can't change any properties though and it is still greyed out under "Element". Seems like a bug to me?

TomBole
Esri Regular Contributor

Hi Illkallers1,

I can repro the inconsistent commands/results in the Contents pane (TOC) using Pro version 3.0. However, I cannot reproduce the original issue of leader lines being disabled. I agree with @AubriOtis that it is likely that your map frame got into a weird state. 

I would agree that this is a bug. Unfortunately, it may be specific to your data/project/workflow. Are you able to reproduce the disabled leader with a new project/map frame/layout?

Can you contact Esri Support? They are better equipped to handle troubleshooting steps and gather bug data. They can be contacted at https://support.esri.com/en/contact-tech-support.

Thanks,

Tom

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SpencerPropp1
New Contributor

Hello all,

I ran into this issue today and was able to resolve it, at least for my specific use case.

The issue for me was that Pro greys out the Leader options when one map frame has a Map Series enabled. This happens even if the extent of the second map frame is completely visible in the first. You can temporarily access the Leader options in the Extent Indicator menu by turning off the Map Series. After I had my leader preferences set, I was able to turn the Map Series back on with no issues. 

I hope this helps,

Spencer

محمدصابر
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that really solve it @SpencerPropp1  😍

JosephChampagne
Occasional Contributor

Map series on a map frame is definitely blocking the leader settings for map frame extents elements, but just disabling it on my layout wasn't enough on its own to re-enable it. My project has multiple layouts with map series defined, and the specific layout I was working with has other map series-driven elements.

I tried copying the layout to a fresh project, but leader options remained greyed-out with map series disabled. What finally fixed it was copying JUST the map frames into a fresh layout, again with map series disabled. Once I sorted out my leaders, I copied the extents indicators back onto the original map frame in my full layout/project and the leaders persisted.

I feel this issue stems from a misguided design philosophy that's reflected in similar settings blocks for certain other scenarios. For example, where some label placement settings are disabled when using the 'Contour' position for line labels. Similarly to this issue, the settings are re-enabled when using a different position, and seem to persist when 'Contour' is re-selected.JosephChampagne_0-1777481778905.png

This probably isn't the place to offer feedback on the broader design issue, but the connection between these issues seems obvious. Encountering roadblocks like this (or the inability to directly unassign projection from datasets) gives an impression of an, at best patronizing, or at worst hostile, design philosophy in Pro that didn't seem to be present in ArcMap.

If any Esri staff could weigh in on this, or direct me to a better forum to discuss or offer feedback, it would be appreciated.

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TomBole
Esri Regular Contributor

Hi @JosephChampagne ,

Thanks for the post!

I can confirm your theory that this issue is map series related. The key is applying a leader line to an Extent Indicator that belongs to the same map frame that is driving the map series.  Leader lines work fine when used with other map frames that are not driving the map series.

In my example below the Leader controls in the Element pane are disabled, however, you can still add a leader line from the Extent Indicator element context menu off the Contents pane (circled in green on the left side of the screenshot below). 

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However, you will still be unable to format the leader while the map frame with the Extent Indicator defines a map series.  You will need to set Map Series to None (it is not enough to disable the map series), set the line format, and then recreate the map series.

In my opinion the disabled state for the Leader in the Extent Indicator Element pane is a bug. Unfortunately, our test scenarios focused on Extent Indicators on other map fames and not the one driving the map series.  Thanks again for helping us identify a gap in our testing.

Tom

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