ArcScene 10.1 near non-functional with TIN (face elevation)

[MikeFutrell]

ArcScene: I upgraded 10 to 10.1 and now TINs are virtually non-functional when symbolizing by face elevation. TINS of even just a few faces, created in 9.x, 10, or 10.1, give that all familiar "Not Responding" for minutes then does not display correctly. Forget about turning the model. Symbolizing by wireframe, aspect, or slope seems to work ok (but elevation is 99% of use). In 10.0 even my large TINs worked fine. So now I have a lot of broken non-functional work. Even simple v10.0 SXD files won't even open!! [no other hardware/software changes were made]

Anyone else experiencing this? Do I need to roll back to 10.0?
Thank you,
Mike

[DarrochKaye]

My ArcScene 10.1 crashes as soon as I load any 3D-enabled feature class or shapefile. Completely unusable.

[JakubSisak]

Wow. A good thing I have not updated then. Using TINs is extremaly important for my work.

[EricRice]

Jakub,

The product wouldn't make it out the door if ArcScene crashed on ALL systems simply by adding a 3d feature class to the application. As for the TIN issue, I have no problems rendering TIN's of all sizes in ArcScene. Mike and Darroch should probably contact Esri Support so they can troubleshoot their systems. Below is a screenshot of the new LAS Dataset in ArcScene. It has ~ 144 million points inside. The default setting is to have a max point in display of 12.8 million. It renders fine and I can navigate seamlessly even after switching the default rendering (points) to be a surface using elevation - which is how a TIN would display.

Please upgrade (at your convenience) and repost your results to this thread. If I were seeing the same as others on this thread I would not suggest that, but I am comfortable going out on a limb here and saying the issues described thus far are isolated issues and not a trend in the software.

Best,
Eric

[JakubSisak]

Please upgrade (at your convenience) and repost your results to this thread.
Eric

Thanks Eric,
That's a fair comment. I might have jumped into my conclusion too quickly merely because working with TINs is such an importatnt aspect of my work. I will upgrade to 10.1 on one of my machines, test this behaivour and provide my own findings. 
Jakub

[JeffreyGagnow]

I have the same issue--

All available tin faces work with the exception of "elevation"--

It locks up for several minutes at a time--

I can still drape other things over the tin and that works--

I have an incident going with ESRI but so far no success on correcting the issue--

10.0 worked fine but this "elevation" tin is the only problem with 10.1 to date--

I have uninstalled and re-installed several times only to return to the same issue--

dlg

[JørnKristiansen]

Hi there.

I can also confirm that this strange event also happens to me. Cant figure out how to fix this. Every time i load a TIN model or converting from raster to TIN in ArcScene, the "not responding" dialog appears.

I wait for 5 min, and suddenly i see some of the triangulation but the software is totally locked (it's like it processing huge amount of data). After 5 min. I'm also capable to see the TIN layer in the TOC. The problem cant be my hardware. When i'm using v.10.0 there is no problem, it has started after I installed 10.1

Jorn

[EricRice]

David,
I had your incident escalated, and I just checked with the analyst and we are awaiting your data.

Jorn,
Can you contact Support?  Or can you post a TIN here?


Jakub,
Have you had a chance to upgrade and work with your TIN's?


All,
We are very interested in getting to the bottom of the issue you are experiencing. 

Best,
Eric

[JørnKristiansen]

Thanks for the effort of trying to fix this problem Eric.

I will try to contact the Support section.
I will also try to report the progress on this thread.

First, I did not manage to post the TIN file here, but I have added som photos of the failing process.

The first picture shows approximately 5 min after i have opened the TIN.
The second picture is showing 6-7 min after i have opened the TIN.

It seems like it is rendering huge data extremely slow, but in the reality the data is not that big. My hardware spec is rather good, so this make no sense.

-Jorn

[PrasantaBhattarai]

Hi Jorn,

Could you please share info on which graphics card, driver date  and version you have for your machine?
One of my user who is having this issue has Radeon HD 7690 MXT Driver date: 11/28/2011 and Driver Version: 8.882.2 4000.

With his TINs, we tested this behavior on my machine (with NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600) and was not able to reproduce the issue. I am trying to gather as much information as I can to narrow down this issue and see if this is specific to certain hardware.

Regards,
Prasanta.