Hi everyone,
Our organization is a mid-sized municipality currently running Cityworks for asset management. The system has been breaking down for us, and leadership is exploring whether we can replace it entirely with Esri-native solutions/apps given that we already have ArcGIS Enterprise.
I am happy to find out if anyone has any of such experience out there as we are looking for Esri applications that can help us handle core functions that cityworks does for us including;
I want to understand how far Esri apps and tools can take us in our asset management and if that is not possible, I am open to ideas on any good CMMS
Any real-world experience, case studies, or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
With enough time and effort, it must be possible, but it would basically be a development job even if you're not primarily coding.
So, my initial question for you is:
How many staff do you already have dedicated to the task of administering/managing Cityworks AMS? And then, do you have a plan to dedicate an additional staff member to developing a new system?
Is this driven partly by the forced migration from Cityworks AMS --> Trimble Unity Maintain?
Hi @Ikeen,
We currently have a large portfolio of asset management solutions that public works, utility, parks and grounds organizations develop asset inventories, conduct inspection and maintenance, and coordinate field work. Several of those also work with Citizen Problem Reporter solution which can used to solid and manage requests for service.
You may be familiar with recently released Field Maps Tasks. We're currently implementing Tasks into several of our asset management solutions to support recurring maintenance and inspection programs where Tasks are tied to specific assets. That work is scheduled to release later this year.
We aren't planning to build material inventory and tacking workflows into our solutions out of the box. Those and a few other capabilities are best served by our asset management partners.
Feel free to reach out if you want to learn more, would be happy to connect.
- Mike
The short answer is it's very very difficult. If ESRI had an actual Asset Management available, it would be a very strong competitor against things like Cityworks. In fact I know of only one municipality in my area that's had success using an ESRI-only suite for asset management. Check out this blog reference from a couple of years ago to get some additional info/contact info for those who might be able to give you some good information.
As someone in an organization that also uses Cityworks (though I don't have access or experience to the administration side of this) a few thoughts on the underlying problem:
As others have said or alluded to, there's a very strong chance that the road you're about to walk may end with "So, I built a work order management software suite from the ground up and could probably start a company on this, at this point." Many of ESRI's solutions are great, and for a smaller municipality, you could probably get a lot of effectiveness out of tying a few of them together. But beyond a certain footprint of municipal responsibilities, I think it's reasonable to ask whether the problem is better tackled by software that was purpose-designed for municipal asset tracking by folks in that side of the industry.
That's very well said, and I'm surprised you aren't in the Administrative side of things since that's precisely what I see as our organization's de facto Cityworks Administrator.
I was the lone GIS worker in our org in 2021 when I was graciously 'handed' Cityworks out of the blue. It became my responsibility to be the implementation project manager, and that turned into managing it indefinitely. Five years later, I am now the Assistant IT Director, but we still don't have a dedicated Cityworks Admin, nor is it in our five year plan... I'm still managing it, barely, but I think we're suffering for it. There may be a breaking point coming sometime soon where management will realize our people aren't collecting data in a manner that actually feeds their analytics pipe dream. It requires more eyes and more hammers beating concepts into heads constantly; more training, re-training. Investing in 'power users' in different work groups to serve as liasons for proper methods and keeping eyes out for efficiencies or improvements to workflows.
I am wondering if OP is in a similar boat where their org has not applied the resources necessary to really get the most benefit out of the platform. Choosing an asset management system - like most enterprise systems - is a harrowing gauntlet of compromises. Cityworks is the devil I know so I can complain out of one side of my mouth while supporting it from the other side.
We are using a different asset manager. Less than optimal performance here as well, means I am also trying to find a more native GIS solution. I believe this can be done, what I don't know is if I have the time to do it.
I've begun to experiment with field maps/tasks for our work order/task needs and really like what I see and how flexible it has been in testing.
I've chatted with a few others who are doing asset piles for storerooms - I have not experimented with this - simply passing on the info.
The big hurdle I see here (other than time) is asset degradation curve.
One and two is easy achievable, the last one will need really careful database design and protentional need 3rd party software like FME flow.
Once you've got 1 and 2 figured out, for Storeroom I have a UC22 demo in the 41:15m part of this video (I hope you have access to UC proceedings) - where I demonstrate what is a Vehicle/Storeroom field solution that keeps track of inventory using ArcGIS Data Interoperability for Pro extension. Since you are using ArcGIS Enterprise for your feature services, this is the appropriate tool if a no-code solution is desired.
If the video is not accesible, reach out to me using my mail rsalvaleon@esri.com and I'll be happy to demo he solution and browse through that video highlights with your account manager.
Inerestingly, a utility land management department is in a similar situation and looking at a field solution as a replacement for inspections and that it will integrate with their custom work and lease management system using Data Interoperability. Budget was their primary issue for the move.