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Please restore ArcScripts

StephenLead

Anyone trying to visit http://arcscripts.esri.com is redirected to ArcGIS Code Sharing - but the old content from ArcScripts has not been ported across.

I get that ArcScripts is no longer active, but this does not mean that all of the content on ArcScripts is useless. There is many YEARS' worth of user contributions on ArcScripts, which will be lost if this resource is removed.

Esri - can you please remove the redirect on http://arcscripts.esri.com and just include a note telling people to check ArcGIS Code Sharing for up-to-date code?

thanks,

Steve

ping Jim Barry‌

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MattWilkie1

@JimBarryI'm now looking for 14222 and 14420 (links go to web.archive.org for 2011).

WhereHaveAllTheLicensesGone.zip - WhereHaveAllTheLicensesGone it is as easy as ever to display information about ESRI product licenses and their current users.
arcuserkill.zip - ArcUserKill is just a GUI front end to the lmutil.exe executable that is run from the command line.

Thank you very much for your time when you see and get to this.

In Github I've added some ArcView3 scripts that were added to this thread since the last time I paid attention to it. I may not have captured everything as it's a bit hard to follow the links.

MattWilkie1

Thank you Jim!

I've started a GitHub project to collect the scripts people have found useful enough to resurrect. Contributors welcome:

GitHub - envygeo/arcscripts_archive: a) listing of content published to Esri ArcScripts before it went offline, b) resto…

JimBarry

Here goes. Inside the .zip are 3 PDFs.

Dropbox - GT_formula_maps.zip - Simplify your life

JimBarry

Matt:

Sorry for the delay. I just noticed this message today.

I don't have it in my ArcScripts database, but Rob Burke from Esri is the one who uploaded that back in 2007.

I just sent him an email asking if maybe he still has it.

- Jim

MattWilkie1

Jim Barry‌, when you have a moment I'm looking for "15287, Geographic Transformation formula maps, GeographicTransformationMaps.zip, AS15287.zip"

RykTaljaard

Great stuff, thank you very much!

JimBarry

Found it. Here's a link to it:

Dropbox - AS11088.zip

RykTaljaard

Can anybody possibly provide me with a copy of the Arcview 3.x extension file "Define RGB Color", # 11088 according to the ArcScripts_Items.xlsx list, or alternatively the file "createcolors.avx" please?

Alternatively any other extension that will allow me to define colors in another way than Arcview's Hue/Saturation/Value option please? Specifically for Arcview 3.x please.

JimBarry

Apologies for the delay. Unfortunately those two VBScripts no longer exist. They were both created by Andrey Galyamov, who doesn't appear to be a GeoNet user. Looking at Andrey's areas of study and tools he uses, it's quite possible this is the same person: Andrey Galyamov | PhD | Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow | RAS | Institute of Geology of Ore Deposits, Petrography, M…

Interestingly enough, for the first script, Andrey mentioned a note of thanks to Stephen Lead‌ and Kirk Kuykendall‌ (or Kirk Kuykendall‌). It's possible either of those two gents might know more.

JimBarry

I'm sorry about the broken link. Not sure how that happened. Regardless, here is the new link to the same document:

Dropbox - ArcScripts_Items.xlsx -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/njj6xqectp2hvo3/ArcScripts_Items.xlsx?dl=0

I also went up to the 2017 post you mentioned and edited the post to show that the old link is broken, and I added the new link.

Hornbydd

Jim Barry‌ I see that the link to that really important Excel file of ArcScript items in your thread dated 13-Jul-2017 01:40 is now broken!

I'm seeing requests over on GIS StackExchange from people seeking these older tools and so I am directing them to this thread. But now that important list that we were all screaming for has vanished!

Please reinstate it or as I have just discovered further down is another link to the excel file that is working, so may be fix the old link or remove it as it may confuse other users.

As I understand this thread is the only location where one can get back to the useful older tools, there is no other mechanism.

DouglasLucas

Hello Jim,

Please check this scripts

16801 MXD package to single location

16802 Batch multi MXD packager to single location

Thank you

JimBarry

We don't have that particular Reorder Fields Tool in our ArcScripts anymore, but it was originally created by David Galt who used to work for the City of New York. You can probably contact him directly through LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidgalt/

AntónioBrandão

Hello, is it possible to give the link for the python script name "Reorder field tool" - ReorderFields.zip - dbid 14721.

Thanks,

JimBarry

Bingo. Ok here goes:

Dropbox - AS10250.zip

GeraldConrad

Hi, Jim... can you please check and see if this script is still available?

10250 QDIR: Quick and Dirty Image Reference

Thanks!

JimBarry

Also, here is a spreadsheet that lists the entire original ArcScripts database. Unfortunately we no longer have all of these items, but we do have at least 2/3 of them. If you find something in the sheet that you're looking for, reply to this thread and I can let you know if we have it, and if we do, I'll give you a link to it.

Dropbox - ArcScripts_Items.xlsx

JimBarry

I found this one from 1999 called "THE REAL DISSOLVE", but it's an Avenue script. Is this the one you're looking for?

Dropbox - AS11342.zip

joseangulo

HI Jim, please help me to locate and old scrip called "the real dissolve". It was helpfull in joinning multiple lines that share a common endpoint.

Thanks

JimBarry

I apologize for the delayed reply folks. The webpage for accessing old ArcScripts uploads is not yet available. Anything you're looking for, Esri Tech Support should be able to help you find if it still exists. They have access to it. As for the ASCII2RASTER2GRID, I'm in the ArcScripts database now and cannot find anything even similar to that, but I did find an AML-based script, attached. I'm still looking for the Avenue one you described, or anything even similar.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26206155/share/AS11609.zip

RebeccaStrauch__GISP

I'm not sure if this is the one you need, but look at the first listing

http://www.arcgis.com/home/search.html?q=Geologic%2BMapping%2BTemplate&start=1&sortOrder=desc&sortField=relevance

or try other searches ArcGIS Code Sharing

Jim Barry

JudeEjepu1

Please, is it possible to get the ESRI Geologic Mapping Template http://arcscripts.esri.com/details.asp?dbid=16317. I just downloaded a tutorial and it is part of the files needed for the tutorial exercise, Thanks.

ChrisYearick

Did webpage to access the old ArcScripts page get done? Seems like the thread ends.

I am desperately searching for an old user script for ArcView 3 called ASCII2RASTER2GRID 2.1.

It might have also been named as GridBatch.exe

Something that I used long ago...

AntonioAlmeida2

Hello Jim,

Can I already have access to the web page to search for ArcView 3.x extensions?

If so, can you make the link available here?

Many thanks

Antonio Sobral Almeida

JimBarry

This solution (and my reply) is way overdue. My apologies. We've pulled the database, will drop the items onto a server, and put a web page on top that can at least be page searched with your browser. On it now. Will be done asap.

Hornbydd

Jim(jbarry-esristaff),

I would like to second Rebecca Strauch, GISP proposal, some sort of lookup page with title and description and then a link to how to request it from ESRI. This seems to be the obvious solution. You clearly have no intention of reinstating the ArcScript site as code sharing site now exists and personally I'm happy with that. But there was an incredible amount of code on ArcScript and to loose that is a terrible waste and ultimately very unproductive and a negative impact on the GIS community. What about scientific journals that reference extensions on Arcscripts, people have no way of following up that research if they cannot obtain the extension/model? To say it's all there and accessible to ESRI staff is kind of good to hear but useless to the REST OF WORLD!

I remember whilst ArcScript was still alive a couple of years ago, discovering someones AML code (yes AML!) which I was able to review and ultimately convert into ArcObjects.

In my eyes there is a desperate need for some sort of web page that can be searched, even if it is a one off "dumb" static HTML page. If a particular tool is requested regularly then ESRI could move it to the code sharing website. Otherwise new contribution should be uploaded to code sharing.

JimBarry

We found a way to do it, which can at least be temporary, if not permanent, and will at the same time prevent search engine crawlers from having this database interfere with newer content. I'll provide an update asap.

StephenLead

Hi Jim,

Many thanks for the detailed reply. That does make sense.

My preference would be to restore the site if possible, but I understand that it's not a high priority. It would make an interesting project for an intern or junior developer to figure out a way to integrate the historical with the modern. Or you could open-source the problem to us?

Thanks again,

Steve

JimBarry

At the moment, the unscalable klunky solution is to contact Tech Support and ask them to search for you, or if you're missing something specific and you have the old URL, they can grab it and send it to you. This is very non-optimal, but I want to let everyone know that the entire old ArcScripts site still exists.

Both of your ideas are great and might provide a bit more workaround help in the interim. I'm looking into them now.

RebeccaStrauch__GISP

It is still fully available within Esri, and Tech Support analysts and any other Esri staff can still get to it, if someone contacts us needing something that was one day suddenly not there.

Jim, is there anyway that you can create a list of the titles, short description, poster/authors, and programming language of all the old scripts? (Minus those that you "know" have been moved, and maybe a hyperlink to those)

Maybe just put this in a blog or discussion. Those authors that have posted under a different title and so inclined could message you with updated info, or if so inclined, create a new entry on the new site.

that way, for those of us that remember "there was a script....Aaahhh,....what was it called again?" Have something to look, and then if found on the list, can request it. Otherwise it can be like searching for a needle in a haystack of needles.....so many to choose from, but no idea which on you need.

that wouldn't be a perfect world, but at least it could be a tool we could use. I totally agree that some of those old scripts are still very valuable for the thought process, workflows and algorithms within....even if they need to be directed and translated into Python, Javascript, .net and adapted for newer software. I hate to see the hard work that went into these just "sit on the shelf" Becuase users don't even know they exist.

My two.bits.

edit: ha...Dan_Patterson‌ hit reply faster than I did...same concept.

DanPatterson_Retired

Thanks Jim... would it be possible to set up a "looking for..." link or place where requests could be directed? If people have a description or can provide a text copy of a link, there might be some pattern as to the time period and/or they types of scripts etc that may be useful to pull.

At least people would have a location to place their requests, which could be monitored rather than the higgly-piggly approach they are using now. You could also see whether there is a ground swell of need or just an intermittent 'need it now' type request.

JimBarry

It's clear we didn't do a good enough job explaining what we did and why. I'm overdue for jumping in here.

Despite the fact that the older "esri.com" ArcScripts was frozen to new submissions in 2010, it had been our intention to leave that site up and running as long as folks were using it, linking to it. We also agree that just because some code is 6-19 years old, doesn't make it useless. We did push a large campaign back in 2010 to ask those who own ArcScripts items to consider moving them to ArcGIS Online (thru ArcGIS.com) and due to the new terms of service, this was something that had to be actively agreed to by each items' owner. And because the user accounts between Esri Global and ArcGIS.com might be different, we had no practical way to reconcile the two to move them even if we wanted to. Some users have multiple accounts; which one do they want it moved to? In the end, we asked item owners to control their own items rather than has us muck it up against their wishes.

In the end, in reality, most of those items did not move. Perhaps the owner felt the item was no longer relevant, perhaps the owner was simply gone and didn't care anymore, perhaps a lot of things, but in the end, we kept the site up for 6 years and intended to simply leave it up.

Now while I cannot get into the details why, there was a significant event that occurred a few months back that caused us to summarily and immediately react to pull the site off-line. It is still fully available within Esri, and Tech Support analysts and any other Esri staff can still get to it, if someone contacts us needing something that was one day suddenly not there. One interesting positive by-product of pulling the site offline is that it made external search engines like Google cease crawling it, and thus stop returning decade or so old results on top of new ones. (This was a complaint we've been hearing about for years. That is, someone goes to Google looking for ArcGIS samples, and the returned results point them to stuff that's 5, 10, sometimes 15 years old and obsolete.)

The old site was invented and built in-house using really old technology. To restore the old ArcScripts site would take a significant design and development project, and we didn't have solid means to measure the cost-benefit of doing so, while at the same time pulling developers off other projects that wouldn't get done. Bringing the old ArcScripts back can be done if there is enough demand for it that helps justify making it a priority.

TimWitt2

Thank you very much!

TimothyHales

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DanPatterson_Retired

welcome to GeoNet... it is quite fortuitous that you found this thread on your first day and could contribute your comments. Is there anything that you would like to see specifically recovered? timothy_hales-esristaff‌ can assist if you can provide a link as text or a general description of the name or functionality of the script etc.

Dana

I agree. Although all code should be moved over to GitHub similar to how Google moved much it's code content to GitHub but still left an archive on their servers for the less popular code. I'm not sure why ESRI is trying to re-invent the wheel. The code sharing site ESRI created is a great idea but does no allow contribution from everyone, updates, bug fixes, etc. Google created a an exporter tool to move code to GitHub. I am sure ESRI could do the same. Why put the responsibility of maintaining the code on one person when other can contribute and improve code?

Our organization is moving GIS scripts and toolboxes to GitHub now that we have an organizational account to share code with everyone within our organization and outside our organization.

GEORGIOSCHALARIS

As an old user (since 1982 are info version 2.0, yes there was no version 1.0 ...) my feeling is that the decision to remove this precious code segments from Amos and avenues scripts that after some effort reveal WORKFLOWS AND ALGORITHMS that can be used in another language environment like Python , is "offensive" to the hundreds of people creating these excellent pieces of work, the thousands scripts that show not only history but also cleverness and sophisticated solutions that can be applied again today just coding in another programming language.

Of course it's not a matter of storage and you should revise your decision. After all keeping history is the perfect means not to make the same mistakes again.

Thank you for considering my opinion

George , Athens Greece

TedKowal

Unfortunately, I was born before the digital age..... I have a big library of code print-outs!

DanPatterson_Retired

Mind you... I rediscovered 'paper copies' after a similar transition many years ago. A good piece of advice for the 'youngin's' that were born into the digital age.

TedKowal

I concur.... I cannot tell you how many times I have used old 'VBA' code as a reference guide in re-coding apps and tools to the new python/net. Although the code is not valid ... the techniques and principles are!

StephenLead

An analogy is someone looking for a manual on their 1970's Ford. They find the link to the manual online, but Ford have redirected all old links to Ford.com

Just because Ford don't sell 1970's cars any more, the old manual doesn't suddenly become useless.

GraemeBrowning

It's not ArcScripts, but I came looking for http://forums.esri.com/Thread.asp?c=93&f=982&t=55146 today when I was trying to help someone on an R6025 error, and it just led me to a front page. I don't look for ArcScripts very often but it does worry me when any technical content posted to a community is lost to that community through broken links.

StephenLead

Hi Timothy,

IMO it's bad practise to break old links like this - "Many of the scripts were brought over" doesn't fully address the issue.

Esri has a huge legacy of valuable content (contributed by users) which is buried in links all over the web, and the redirect means that these links are now broken. Given that the only people visiting an old ArcScripts link are actually looking for that content, what is the harm in letting them find it?

The fact the content is 6+ years old doesn't matter - an old AML or Avenue script may not be directly usable by someone today, but the concepts may be of use. And remember, the only reason someone is following that link is because they're actually looking for that old AML or Avenue script.

Basically there is no reason for the redirect of all ArcScripts URLs, as it means you're destroying a whole bunch of user-generated content for no gain. A prominent mention of Code Sharing on the ArcScripts landing page would suffice.

Thanks,

Steve

TimWitt2

Oh, it is redirected link from arcscripts and I thought Timothy might be able to bring the content over.

DanPatterson_Retired

Tim... the link just went to the Code Sharing site... check your link

TimWitt2

Is there a way to bring this one over? ArcGIS Code Sharing

TimothyHales

The old ArcScripts site was placed in read-only mode in April 2010. At that time many of the scripts were brought over into ArcGIS Online. A redirect to the new ArcGIS Code Sharing site was put into place earlier this year since the content is over 6 years old. I do not anticipate the redirect being removed; however, if there are specific scripts that you are looking for please let me know. I can see about pulling them so that they can be accessed.

DanPatterson_Retired

ditto to timothy_hales-esristaff‌

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