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For those keeping track...looks like there is an iOS agenda app update today (July 20)...at the app store
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Agenda App update July 14
Esri Blog post....and I added some initial suggestions for use (from a user perspective)
I got it to work on June 30th and saved the URL (this is the Planner). After a couple hours it disappeared.
This works for me. But it is a little awkward to use.
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I think ESRIs biggest mistake was that, in years past, the on-line agenda and personal planner were released at the same time, as a single application.
People expected that, and when all we got was the agenda it created a lot of frustration. Even now, on the "My UC" page, it specifically lists availability of the "Agenda/Planner" as "Now" when clearly it isn't.
All they had to do was split those into two separate items or include a brief "Personal planner coming soon" notation, and they could have avoided much of this thread.
Also, I'd add that this is one of the pitfalls of Agile dev methodology. Assuming this planner app was done via Agile, the requirements for the end solution trickle in and morf over the course of the project from "the customer". There is no exhaustive "up front" requirements gathering initiative. Therefore what you get is a product that grows over time, where functionality is added "as needed". The first release is never fully baked. The problem is, this UC planner has been through several incarnations, the last of which had some pretty solid functionality. So, customers expect similar functionality. Since next year will be "round two" of the esri UC planner project as it is in it's current form, I'm sure we'll see the modifications so desperately needed.
From a developer's point of view... Welcome to the brave new world of "the only way to get things done on the web is via JavaScript (and HTML and CSS)". Language(s) that were sanctioned 20+ years ago for a mainly static web page paradigm, not "modern web apps". Now, JavaScript, the poor thing, has been so extended and stretched with frameworks and all manner of geek foolery that it's virtually useless to all but the most dogged, Red Bull fueled, web developers (the ones who are doing all the extending and stretching). Esri is trying so hard, bless its heart, to make good on this "new and exciting world of JavaScript" that's its hiring totally tricked out web devs right and left to make bright shiny things. Too bad only a small handful of them can eek out good UX from the HTML/CSS/JS holy trinity.
This planner is a case in point. I'll bet esri worked really really really hard on it and still, way short of good user experience. Specifically, the two needs 1) being able to easily, quickly create and save out individualized planners to give to our supervisors so that we can actually attend the UC and 2) being able to easily add sessions to our calendars right from the planner page.
I'm not trolling here or looking for fights... just stating facts, facts esri is too aware of. But I get it... there's no other show in town, HTML/JS/CSS are it, so I guess maybe this is trolling.
I know, I know, you can dev in other languages that "compile to JS" Really? Compile to JavaScript? Think about that for a sec.
The plugins (technology that actually excelled at creating and delivering solid single page web apps) are dead and yet what we are finding is that HTML/CSS/JS are so bad at doing those same single page web apps that along with all that JS geek foolery are things like "web optimizers" which attempt, bless their hearts, to "build" the most streamlined web apps possible, because without these "minifiers", your site sucks. What we have here folks, is an "every web dev for themselves plugin emulating system" that's based on 20+ year old interpreter driven web technology. A world that was never ever designed to actually build "apps".
What we desperately need is a complete overhaul of web dev technology. The kicker is... no one can agree on what that should look like or who should create it, maintain it, etc... and so we have this "wild west" where you have a few skilled, ruthless gun slingers, a lot of scared citizens, shills for sheriffs and lots of open range to conquer. Or perhaps, think of our current situation as being run by ISIS where Flash and Silverlight were Saddam H. and friends. Pick your poison. We are currently in the midst of "HTML/JS/CSS Spring". This planner is a small piece in a very large, complex puzzle... a puzzle that won't be solved for years and years to come.
Let the flame wars begin.
well what i dont understand is why in the new app under "my schedule" why there is no calendar view?
the only thing i can do is see a list by day, would have loved to have an actual calendar view!
oh well, if you see a new guy at the UC walking around with a lost look on his face...thats me!
Since the app isn't working I created a 'Google Calendar' and just copied the info for the sessions into it and did my planning there. It took a couple of days but I was finally able to get some idea of what and where everything will be.
I think the 2-million dollar question is why did they mess with something that was working?
2 years ago the online planner and the mobile app both worked great.
Last year they were a bit buggy, but still usable.
This year, nothing.
Essential UC agenda planning toolset.....
Guy, for the agenda on the PC/browser no plug-in is required, but the planner isn't there. It does take a bit for the agenda to "download" before it shows (20 seconds for me, on a fast connection)...wait until
disappears...then the agenda is there. The pocket pdf is handy to view on the pc or on a pad...(.my guess is they will still hand those out at the conference). FWIW, I'm finding the app on the ipad is working great, but still use the PC as a second screen for scrolling through the sessions...and that doesn't help anyone without a mobile device.
I was going to say it worked, but I checked this morning and it does not. I get the same thing.
Use the pocket agenda Amanda Nunley posted http://www.esri.com/~/media/Files/Pdfs/events/user-conference/pdfs/G69435_UC15-PocketAgda_146418-final-6-19-15.pdf?la=en
i guess the million dollar question is why is this even an issue 2 weeks out!?!
guess i expected more.
I know it was working last week for a couple of days. I was on vacation and didn't do much with it, but it was working. Hope they get it up and running this week!
Is there a plugin required for the on line agenda for the PC? It does not load for me. When I click on Agenda or session planner this is the screen I get. Trying to review all of the sessions on a mobile device to decide what I want to attend is painful. I tried Chrome, Firefox and IE and it loads the same in all.
Found the Pocket Agenda Link
Download the Full Agenda [PDF]
Pre-planning ESRI UC 2015??? Yes, please...
Go Green/Paper free??? Yes, please...
But at least enable pre-planning online or via app.
hhhmmmm, now how to organize Tues/Wed/Thur (total: 1255 sessions) without any sorting, time table viewing options...???
That's gonna be challenging (and I don't mean fun)
What gives Redlands???
Tim, you are correct, the planner is not available in the browser, anymore....or at least at the moment. It was there a couple days ago because I was using it. So, it maybe there was a glitch they are fixing (i.e. the jumping to the top of the list after each selection??), and hopefully it will be back up. The app on the ipad is still working for me however. not sure that it would be easy on a iphone or a small screen, but I like it on the ipad.
maybe Karen Richardson can give an update?
...just saw another post from you....
to comment (from my perspective) on some of it...
1. I know the ipad version can save to a calender (.ical ?) so I'm guessing maybe it ca be shared.
2. Use the filter (and search too, if in ipad) to find the session
3. I miss that part on the app too, but I think the browser version lists alternate times
4. I would sure like that too...that is, the old printed agenda look, but this is a whole new, rewritten app I think, and compared to last year's, it is much better (Although I thought the one two years ago was better than this one. However, if it can be added to the device's calendar (ical), then I think that is the replacement for the calendar view.
...I would love to be able to print out a "short" version showing all my choices to an (editable) PDF, so I can have an easily accessible version, and to modify it for what I did attend for handing into with the trip report. It may not be one button, but this is better than copying and pasting the entire agenda and trying to clena it up (but a download or the full PDF would also be beneficial)
I am not seeing a way to add sessions to a planner at my desktop. I've been looking forward to this trip for two years and I still have no idea what I will do when I get there. I recall a questionnaire from ESRI asking if they could "go green" and stop printing the agenda and giving it out in the goody bag on day one. I said Yes, because I always planned far in advance. I didn't realize they were going to ruin the online agenda we have used for the last decade!
At least give us a PDF to download.
Excellent idea.
I opened the Tuesday session list in my browser, then clicked on each session I was interested in using the mouse wheel button. This opened each session in a new tab. This enabled to read descriptions and add to my planner much faster!
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My guess is it's because it's getting really heavy use right now. When I first saw it (and before many knew about it) it was a bit snappier. Now it's a bit sluggish, but just until the day is loaded. I think off hours it will be a little better.
And although it isn't instant, my ipad and browser version are syncing.
It will be interesting at the UC, but if you have most of your options already selected/thinned-out, you can have it on you myPlanner (star) or calendar...then it should be faster. Looking at the full schedule is where I see the slow down.
BTW - mine is NOT resetting to the top of the day after selecting a session. If I select the star, after looking at the details, I can continue panning in the "TOC" session list.
EDIT: Royce Simpson I see what you mean about it jumping to the top of the list....on the PC browser version it is doing this. The iOS app seems to handle it a bit better. But I noticed another responce after this on that had a hint....I'm going to try that one myself.
Ok, the online agenda planner has been updated but is almost unusable. It's super slow and every time you pick a session to add to your planner, the site resets back to the top of the list of sessions forcing you to scroll down the list and attempt to find where you left off. It's going to take hours and hours to put together a planner.
Whoooo hooo..... The UC planner is on the ipad app now!!! (6/29/15)
If you search for Esri you should find it.
Edit: glad you found it Chris.....I was trying to include a snapshot of the image..
What is the name of the planner on Apple Store? I don't see it.
...update...just noticed it is available as an iPad update....downloading now! Yea!
...edit: App updated 6/25/15.... But agenda not quite there yet...but closer to being released I assuming.
Karen, assuming the answer to Richard's question is still soon (I.e. No real eta), is there any chance you can provide an excel or editable PDF with just the date/time, titles, room, and if there are other sessions. Others details could be looked up on the online agenda already available, but that would help with preplanning/thinning of personal suggestions, and will make it easier to transfer once the app is realeased. Even a PDF of the pocket agenda might help. Only a couple more weekends before the UC...valuable time to review the agenda.
thanks, and I'm still looking forward to using the app once released.
Karen,
Any word on the status of the planner?
Hi Tom - the planner will be online on the web as well - never fear! It is currently in the Google Play and Apple stores. As soon as it is released, we will get it up so you can use it.
It sounds like the planner will be an app and not on-line through the agenda?! That's an awful lot of info to read on a small phone screen. I have eye strain just thinking about it, especially since I have to do it for several people. Just give us back the agenda planner we have been using and enjoying for years. BTW, when are EITHER going to be available, UC is less than 4 weeks away!
Thanks Karen. To be clear, are you saying that there won't be any online version of the planner as was the case in the past? It used to even have options to add the selected sessions/activities to our calendars. What will the functionality of the app be? Can it export to PDF or create calendar events? I need something like that for my supervisor's records as well as sharing with coworkers so we don't double dip on sessions.
Hi Todd and Dave and everyone - thanks for your patience! We are expecting to release it to the app store next month - June. I'll keep you posted for sure. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Todd,
the agenda portion is up and running yes, but the "planner" portion doesn't seem to be active. the funny thing is, it was active when the agenda was first released but then it was taken down.
the "planner" function would normally be found on the left hand side with the sessions and activities tabs.
Dave
Hi Dave,
Looks like it's up and running to me.
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