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Customize address locators in ArcGIS 10

AndreeaArgesanu

Hello everyone

I am experiencing some problems with customizing the address locator style in ArcGIS 10. I have to admit that I haven't done any customization before, so this would be my first time. The reason why I need to do this is that the address locator style doesn't match the UK style addresses.

The elements that I tried modifying are:
- Suffix types, Prefix types, Unit types, House numbers and Aliases (all these under the grammar section)
- I have also tried to add unit type, unit number and house name into the mapping schema and reference data styles (Single House Address only)

Before starting the work, I have read the ESRI Geocoding technical paper "Customizing Locators in ArcGIS 10", November 2010 and used it as a guide.

After finishing the modifications, I have copied the .lot.xml .xsd and .xslt files into the Locators folder (C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Desktop10.0\Locators). Then, I tried creating a new address locator using the modified schema. I didn't get too far, as just after I clicked "My Address-Single House", ArcCatalog closed down without any warning or any error report.

I must have done something wrong, but I have no clue what or how I could validate the modified file and see my mistakes.

I have therefore attached the files that I have modified, hoping that there is someone here that could give me a hand with this.

Many thanks in advance

Andreea

My Locator.zip

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CameronIrvine

Hi Andreea,

Did you ever make in headway with this? I am also trying to find a way to use the geocoding services that come out of the box from ESRI with UK addresses. You would have thought someone would have created a UK address locator by now!

Thanks
Cameron

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi Andreea,

Did you ever make in headway with this? I am also trying to find a way to use the geocoding services that come out of the box from ESRI with UK addresses. You would have thought someone would have created a UK address locator by now!

Thanks
Cameron

Hi Cameron

Sorry for this late reply. I haven't checked my emails for ages... Yes, you would have thought so, but the reality is different.

I spent lots of time on trying to create my own geocoding service and after loads of trial and error attempts, I have managed to get somewhere. I can proudly say (just because I didn't get any help from ESRI or anyone else and I did it all by myself) that I managed to get a pretty good address locator. It's not perfect and it needs more input, but it's a start. The trouble is that for the last 2 months or so I haven't had the time to look into it, as I had other priorities. We changed our gazetteer software and I need to wait until everything runs smoothly on that side before I spend more time on the locator, but I'm sure that its turn will come soon! 🙂

It's been a while now since I haven't touched it, but from what I can remember I've got to the stage where it finds all the addresses except from one particular situation, i.e.: when you're trying to search for a specific flat within a a block of flats, it returns as 100% matched all the flats within that block of flats. I'll probably need to look more into the scores, but I just couldn't find what exactly needs modifying.

I have also tried to create different locators which I can then merge into a composite locator. So...I managed to create a street locator taking the centre point of each street (it would have been great if there was an easy way to modify the one range or two range styles, but as I can see it, there is no easy way of doing it...); I have also created locators for postcodes and towns, which were ok. The postcode locator was a bit tricky, but in the end I managed to modify it so it now recognizes postcodes with or without a space in-between the two parts (e.g. KT17 3EH & KT173EH)

Now, it's only a matter of fixing the single house style so that it does exactly what I want it to. Also, once I finish this I want to look into the reverse geocoding as I haven't had the chance to do that at all. Anyway, if you think we can both work on any bit of this geocoding service and get somewhere (2 is always better than 1 🙂 ), please let me know.

Thanks
Andreea

CameronIrvine

Hi Cameron

Sorry for this late reply. I haven't checked my emails for ages... Yes, you would have thought so, but the reality is different.

I spent lots of time on trying to create my own geocoding service and after loads of trial and error attempts, I have managed to get somewhere. I can proudly say (just because I didn't get any help from ESRI or anyone else and I did it all by myself) that I managed to get a pretty good address locator. It's not perfect and it needs more input, but it's a start. The trouble is that for the last 2 months or so I haven't had the time to look into it, as I had other priorities. We changed our gazetteer software and I need to wait until everything runs smoothly on that side before I spend more time on the locator, but I'm sure that its turn will come soon! 🙂

It's been a while now since I haven't touched it, but from what I can remember I've got to the stage where it finds all the addresses except from one particular situation, i.e.: when you're trying to search for a specific flat within a a block of flats, it returns as 100% matched all the flats within that block of flats. I'll probably need to look more into the scores, but I just couldn't find what exactly needs modifying.

I have also tried to create different locators which I can then merge into a composite locator. So...I managed to create a street locator taking the centre point of each street (it would have been great if there was an easy way to modify the one range or two range styles, but as I can see it, there is no easy way of doing it...); I have also created locators for postcodes and towns, which were ok. The postcode locator was a bit tricky, but in the end I managed to modify it so it now recognizes postcodes with or without a space in-between the two parts (e.g. KT17 3EH & KT173EH)

Now, it's only a matter of fixing the single house style so that it does exactly what I want it to. Also, once I finish this I want to look into the reverse geocoding as I haven't had the chance to do that at all. Anyway, if you think we can both work on any bit of this geocoding service and get somewhere (2 is always better than 1 🙂 ), please let me know.

Thanks
Andreea

Hi Andreea,

That's impressive! I have looked at this so many times when I have had a spare 30 mins or so and got no where. When I talk to ESRI UK they suggest i spend a ridiculous amount of money on Locator Hub which isn't going to happen in this economic climate.

I am interested in all of the address locators you have talked about if you are willing to share information with me. Then if I make any progress I can share it with you.

How does that sound?

Thanks
Cameron

DanielVoisey

Andreea

Have you built an ESRI locator that works with Ordnance Survey Addresspoint?

If you so you are to be congratulated!

Would you be willing to share the style file?

Danny

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi Danny & Cameron

Sorry, I haven't had much time recently to work on this. If I do manage to progress with it, I will post back here.
If it helps, I haven't used OS Addresspoint, but our own gazetteer, as I was told that the first one is not too accurate.

Andreea

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi Danny & Cameron

Sorry, I haven't had much time recently to work on this. If I do manage to progress with it, I will post back here.
If it helps, I haven't used OS Addresspoint, but our own gazetteer, as I was told that the first one is not too accurate.

Andreea

Hi everyone

I'm back with some good news. I managed to make the style file work with our UK gazetteer addresses (I have no idea if it works with the OS address point, but it might be worth trying). It's not perfect and it might need some adjusting to your needs, but If anyone is still interested in this, please let me know.

Andreea

bharold

Andreea et alia

Please try the attached. A UK style is still in progress.

Regards

UKAddress.lot.zip

UKOrdnanceSurvey.lot.zip

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi Bruce,

Thank you for sharing your work. I had a look at your styles, and the 'UKOrdnanceSurveyAddressPoint' matches our address type better than the 'UKAddress-SingleHouse'. The only issue is that I get an error message when creating the locator: 'Failed to create the address locator' and couldn't see how the locator works.

Though, Brad Niemand has given me a similar style in a different thread (see attachment) which worked, but the locator itself doesn't find addresses as I was expecting it to. An additional field would need to be added: SubBuilding Number and, also, I find that splitting the street name into name, prefix and suffix helps finding the addresses better.

I have attached my modified style, which I find to best fit our geocoding needs. It has a small issue, though, that i couldn't fix: searching for <streetname 'whitespace' town> wouldn't return any addresses, but when searching for <streetname 'comma'/'point'/'or any other defined separators' town> addresses are returned successfully. I tried everything and still couldn't find a way to make it work with an white space. Maybe you could help with this...

And one more thing: do you have any idea why when publishing the locator to a geocode service on ArcGIS Server 10, searches that are successful in ArcMap aren't successful on the web service? For example, when searching for a postcode in ArcMap, addresses that include that specific postcode are returned as 100% matched, but on the web service none is returned.

Many thanks,
Andreea

UKOrdnanceSurveyOriginal.zip

My Locator.zip

JeffersonFerreira_Ferreira

Hi all;

I apologize if this is not the appropriate place for may question, but I'm looking for a answer for days on that.
I'm trying to customize a Brazilian address locator style for a specific propose, but my locator doesn't return any field in the Field Map in Create Address Locator window.
Looks like my style doesn't require any field, so when I put my reference data a error message appear saying "Too many reference data tables for this style". Moreover, i can't set the inserted reference data as "primary table". The only option is "alias table".

I'll attach the XML here. If someone could give a hand on this little question I would be grateful.
Best regards

Jefferson Ferreira Ferreira

TESTE2.lot.rar

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi there.

Could you, please upload you file as a zip file? I can't open .rar files. Thanks

Andreea

Hi all;

I apologize if this is not the appropriate place for may question, but I'm looking for a answer for days on that.
I'm trying to customize a Brazilian address locator style for a specific propose, but my locator doesn't return any field in the Field Map in Create Address Locator window.
Looks like my style doesn't require any field, so when I put my reference data a error message appear saying "Too many reference data tables for this style". Moreover, i can't set the inserted reference data as "primary table". The only option is "alias table".

I'll attach the XML here. If someone could give a hand on this little question I would be grateful.
Best regards

Jefferson Ferreira Ferreira

JeffersonFerreira_Ferreira

Hi there;

Andreea, thank you very much for your interest in help me. I was working on that a month.
Besides the question of the fields were not appear in Create Address Locator window, i need to put a reference data with 4 fields of house number on each line segment: Left from, left to, and so on. But I'm not sure where declare that issue in xml file. I emphasize the Brazilian address style is composed by a prefix (av, st,...) street name and number.
If you, or someone, could help I'll be grateful.

Regards,
Jefferson Ferreira Ferreira

TESTE2.lot.zip

MatthewBull

Hi Bruce,

Is the intention to release these UK address locator styles in the core ArcGIS product? If so, have you any idea of when that might be?

Thanks
Matt

Andreea et alia

Please try the attached. A UK style is still in progress.

Regards

AndreeaArgesanu

Hi Jefferson

I tried to have a look at your file, but I'm a bit busy at the moment so I couldn't spare too much time on it. I remember at some point I got the same error message about having too many reference tables, even though I only had one, but I can't remember how I fixed the issue though... Useless, I know. If you want, you can have a look at the file we use for our locator, and by comparison try to spot any mistake in your file. Hope this helps.

andreea

Hi there;

Andreea, thank you very much for your interest in help me. I was working on that a month.
Besides the question of the fields were not appear in Create Address Locator window, i need to put a reference data with 4 fields of house number on each line segment: Left from, left to, and so on. But I'm not sure where declare that issue in xml file. I emphasize the Brazilian address style is composed by a prefix (av, st,...) street name and number.
If you, or someone, could help I'll be grateful.

Regards,
Jefferson Ferreira Ferreira

Anonymous User

Has this topic (namely address locator for OS data) advanced any with 10.1? I'm yet to have a look into this but thought i would ask the question particularly given Redlands input in thread history.

Brad

WANNAZMEEN

Hi Cameron

Sorry for this late reply. I haven't checked my emails for ages... Yes, you would have thought so, but the reality is different.

I spent lots of time on trying to create my own geocoding service and after loads of trial and error attempts, I have managed to get somewhere. I can proudly say (just because I didn't get any help from ESRI or anyone else and I did it all by myself) that I managed to get a pretty good address locator. It's not perfect and it needs more input, but it's a start. The trouble is that for the last 2 months or so I haven't had the time to look into it, as I had other priorities. We changed our gazetteer software and I need to wait until everything runs smoothly on that side before I spend more time on the locator, but I'm sure that its turn will come soon! 🙂

It's been a while now since I haven't touched it, but from what I can remember I've got to the stage where it finds all the addresses except from one particular situation, i.e.: when you're trying to search for a specific flat within a a block of flats, it returns as 100% matched all the flats within that block of flats. I'll probably need to look more into the scores, but I just couldn't find what exactly needs modifying.

I have also tried to create different locators which I can then merge into a composite locator. So...I managed to create a street locator taking the centre point of each street (it would have been great if there was an easy way to modify the one range or two range styles, but as I can see it, there is no easy way of doing it...); I have also created locators for postcodes and towns, which were ok. The postcode locator was a bit tricky, but in the end I managed to modify it so it now recognizes postcodes with or without a space in-between the two parts (e.g. KT17 3EH & KT173EH)

Now, it's only a matter of fixing the single house style so that it does exactly what I want it to. Also, once I finish this I want to look into the reverse geocoding as I haven't had the chance to do that at all. Anyway, if you think we can both work on any bit of this geocoding service and get somewhere (2 is always better than 1 🙂 ), please let me know.

Thanks
Andreea

Hi, i hope u can send me the tutorials on how to do this or u can send all the customize files...i really hope that u can help me.. actually this is related to my final year project which is customizing address locator for my country Malaysia... i really really hope u can help me to complete my project...

DanielCherry

I, too, would be grateful if you could share a tutorial (or at least the steps you went through to modify the style).

Have fun!
Daniel

MohammadPriadharma

Hello Andrea

i have same problem here. I want to using Gazetteer Metadata services for loading Gazetteer Tools in arcgis server.
but most of reference at arcgis resource center are suggested using arcIMS services (igeographynetwork.com),

is there any other ways to loading Gazetteer Metadata servicesat arcgis server?

could you give me best advice about this?

many thanks
Priadharma

AdrianMarsden

Hi

I thought I'd have a play with geocoders in the hope of adding the widget to my javascrip api app. However I'm having all sorts of issues.

Using the UK Postcode template from above (many thanks) - I can get one set up, but it only does a full match, so it will return a match for "EX10 8HL" but not for "EX10 8"

So, I set a even simpler one up, just wards, again it returns only if te full string is matched, and then only one hit, so a search for "Ward" returns only one result, despite all the wards having this string in its name.

The whole thing looks very promising, I'd love to offer some sort of fuzzyness to my browser based users, but simply cannot get to grips with this at all.

Cheers

ACM

JazzGoh

Hi all,

I am new to this and I am actually stuck at the part for reference data. May I know where do you guys get the reference data?

Thanks!

Sorry if this sound like a stupid question.

Asrujit_SenGupta

jazzgoh12‌ This is a very old post from 2011. I'll suggest that you post your question, as a new Thread, including all the details--

What are you trying to do?

What have you already tried?

What resources have you checked?etc

KerrieOsborne1

The problem with starting a new thread, is that people can't see how long ESRI have ignored adding basic functionality into their product, relying on their users (who don't pay a small sum for their licenses!) to fix it for them. The fact that I have had to search the community forum, for a UK address locator and a scalebar showing the current scale on a "World Leading" GIS system, is shocking!

AdrianMarsden

Don't you just hate it when you have a problem ,Google it, find a forum that looks interesting, only to find you've been here before and posted in it and that previous version of me has made more progress that today's version of me?

Surely, someone has found a way to do a simple UK locator - all I want is a simple wild card search on a single field!

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