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How to Change # of Decimal Places in Chart Statistics when Viewing Statistics on a Field

ChristopherBowering

When I right-click on a field within the attribute table and select 'Statistics', a chart and statistical properties appear. I wish a small, simple window would come up with statistical information instead of a full separate entity - as was the case in ArcMap - but that is neither here nor there! Right now, the various statistics (sum, max, mean, etc) only show 1 decimal place. The numeric properties for the field itself are set to show 6 decimal places and I don't see where I can change this property for the chart results. I'd like for more than 1 decimal place to be present. Does anyone know how to change this??

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DanPatterson

You can change all the chart properties.... just not the tabular summary.

ChristopherBowering

@DanPatterson - I noticed that as well. The number format can be changed for the chart like your screenshot shows. What's weird is that I've come across other screenshots of the 'Data' view which show more than 1 decimal place so it has to be doable somehow. I'm not sure how just showing the tenths place is deemed sufficient.

DanPatterson

probably because it is just a quick view and probably isn't meant to be a proper summary table. There are lots of other ways to get a statistical summary for reports.

ChristopherBowering

@DanPatterson Yeah, I agree that it isn't meant to be anything "proper". However, I don't really use it for reports, it's just a convenient way to do quick QC which is how I use the function. It rounding to the tenths isn't very conducive anymore. If you look at the image I'm attaching (found it online), there does seem to be a way to adjust this...just not sure how!

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BrianOevermann

So... while in-person at the Esri UC a few weeks ago I took the opportunity to "gripe" about this issue at the Pro product island. I had nothing but great interaction and engagement with Alycia regarding three topics we discussed, of which this was one. She briefly left and came back with another employee who could shed some insight on this particular issue.

It turns out that this other employee (I won't name but he was great as well, seriously!) was the person that argued for changing it to one decimal place (who could have predicted that?). His reasons were sound, though shortsighted (my opinion).

I requested a reversal to 6 decimal places (quick, easy, not much testing) or, better, an option for us to specify the number of decimals shown (obviously more development and testing).

While he made no absolute promises, he sounded positive that they could just revert back to 6 decimals. I think they just didn't realize how people are using that information. It will be discussed by the Charts team. If it happens, we likely won't see it until Pro 3.1.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'll believe it when I see it!

ChristopherBowering

Thank you for advocating this issue on our behalf! It's great that you were able to have a detailed discussion about such a minor feature. I really don't know how it could 'hurt' to have the option for multiple decimal places so hopefully it can be reverted back as you mentioned. I'm sure careful thought goes into most changes ESRI makes but I agree that this one was probably short sighted. Thanks!

BrianOevermann

And an update regarding the workaround of copy/pasting the value--you need to basically select the line and not the value itself to copy/paste. Somewhere along the way, just copying the value no longer holds the entire value and only has the single decimal place. The Esri staff were not aware of the copy/paste abilities but, really, how can you truly be aware of all of the intricacies of the software when they are making all of the seemingly minor tweaks on a regular basis. You can copy the entire table of statistical info if you select toward the top and copy. You might need to play around a bit to find the sweet spot. I don't happen to have Pro open at the moment to be more detailed.

KFung_TLC

I just got into the EXACT SAME ISSUE and it's mind boggling why ArcPo cannot (or refuse) to make this simple feature available.

"....It turns out that this other employee (I won't name but he was great as well, seriously!) was the person that argued for changing it to one decimal place (who could have predicted that?). His reasons were sound, though shortsighted (my opinion)....."

Hopefully I am wrong, but such opinion from that ESRI employee simply make me ANGRY about ArcPro, and drive me more and more a "ArcMap Desktop loyalist". I understand he may have a "high road" in his mind (such as forcing us to put extra effort in order to develop so-called good GIS practices), but those kind of Holier-Than-Thou attitude is not going to win more genuine convert to ArcPro. If ArcPro is a real upgrade, why not keeping the original feature that make ArcMap Desktop great?

Seriously, it is THAT hard for them to add/fix such minor features, which would make thousands of ArcPro users life such simpler?

Sorry for the ranting, but I second the cheers for Brian on advocating this minor but important issue on our behalf. Hopefully they can listen. Thanks again for everyone that bring this up!

GordondeSouza

I would like to see this feature as well. I used it all the time before Pro as I needed 2 decimals places and to not have that functionality is aggravating and time consuming. I would also like to see the length of objects update automatically instead of having to run Calculate Geometry every time. Many times I have to make fine adjustments to lines and areas and each time I change something I have to run Calculate Geometry to get my line totals. Pro needs a similar feature like MapInfo where you double click on the object and get all stats in a pop-up box without having to re-calculate any geometry.

FaithJohnson

I can't get it to work!! I'm really trying.

FaithJohnson

Lots of people are having this issue. So what is the quickest way that you are using to sum a field with precision of more than one decimal place? Please don't say Summary Statistics. I know about that, but I'd like something faster, that doesn't create an output table.

BrianOevermann

@FaithSJohnson, I'm unsure if you can't get the table copy to work or the row copy (or something else). I am still using Pro 2.9.5 so if you are on 3.x your experience may now be different. See the attached graphic. I simply right-clicked within the statistics table and chose Copy Table, then pasted it into a text document. If you highlight a row and select Copy Row it will only give you that row information.

My original post says "select toward the top" but you can right-click anywhere in the table. And, I realize I didn't explicitly say "right-click to copy" so I apologize if I confused anyone.

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BrianOevermann

@FaithSJohnson, see my reply to your other post above. Instead of selecting "Copy Table", first highlight the Sum row and then right-click and select "Copy Row" then paste that into a text document to see the full decimal places. FWIW, the text file can be a throwaway and doesn't need to be something you keep around. You just need to have somewhere to paste the copied info so you can see the full value(s).

FaithJohnson

Yes, thank you. This does work for me. I hope Esri doesn't think this is "solved" - but at least I can find the answer after a few more clicks and using another program.

BrianOevermann

Here to post my 2nd Annual Update on this topic after attending the Esri UC. I saw my Esri staff friend, Alycia, again and got a bunch of my Pro questions answered (she really is an expert on Pro!). Then she walked me over to the island where the staff (who shall still remain nameless) from last year's interaction currently was. He, his Lead, and another staff whom was never introduced discussed the status of changing the number of decimals back to 6 places.

I was assured that the decimal change will be in Pro 3.2 due sometime around October.

I told them I would be posting an update to this thread and hoped they weren't going to make a liar out me! Crossing my fingers on that but it appears that the change is truly imminent.

FaithJohnson

👏I love this update, thank you!! I'll check back in once we get 3.2, but I feel really optimistic 🤞

HollyTorpey_LSA

That's fantastic news! 😍 Thanks for coming back here with the update!

ChristopherAllen

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for the feedback. As @BrianOevermann mentioned, the Charts team is planning to increase the number of decimal places that are displayed in the histogram statistics table for the 3.2 release. I’m just reaching out to make sure we fully understand your needs. Our current plan is to display 10 decimal places in 3.2, which was how the values were displayed up to Pro version 2.8. Is this sufficient or would you prefer to see all decimal places? Please keep in mind that it's possible to copy the values with full precision by right-clicking the table.

Thanks for your input!

Chris

HollyTorpey_LSA

10 is sufficient for me! Thank you for doing this!

Any plans to add a simplified statistics tool where we can right-click on a column and get just the basic descriptive statistics for the selected set in a popup or panel (min, max, mean, median, sum, etc.) without cluttering our workspace and TOC with charts? It's really the only thing I still miss about ArcMap, and I made the switch about four years ago.

I'm not suggesting you get rid of the chart option, because I know there are use cases where all that information is useful, but for my day-to-day workflows, it's overkill and creates clutter than I have to clean up.

ChristopherAllen

Hi Holly,

Thanks for the response!

Have you tried the Data Engineering view in Pro? It allows you to view summary statistics for your fields without adding a chart to your TOC.

Take care,

Chris

HollyTorpey_LSA

Thanks! To be honest, I have not really explored the Data Engineering tools, but I will do so now! Thanks for the suggestion.

FaithJohnson

Yes, 10 is sufficient for me, thanks @ChristopherAllen !

HollyTorpey_LSA

Decimal places!!!! 😍 Thank you @ChristopherAllen !

JenelleBlack

Well, you all will find this really funny. I came here to figure out how to get RID of all those decimal places in the statistic (mean) I want to show in my chart. We can configure everything about the chart EXCEPT the statistics. I want to move the display location, change the font, and get rid of all decimal places. Sigh. I'm glad they were responsive to you, but configurable options for the chart stats is what we really need. Perhaps you could forward this feedback to he-who-shall-not-be-named??

BrianOevermann

@JenelleBlack, I'm not really surprised at all. The awesome flexibility of GIS means that there isn't ever a single method of doing things, making it difficult to please everyone. I think that is why many ArcGIS Ideas don't see any traction--the request is too niche even if it might help an entire particular segment of industry. I'm glad I don't make the decisions regarding the work plan. I've been in your position regarding other aspects of Pro (and Desktop before that).

That said, Esri staff have finally joined this thread requesting feedback, namely @ChristopherAllen, so perhaps he will follow up with his own comments. He is on the charts team so your thoughts should make their way back to the rest of the team for discussion.

When I approached staff with this issue at the 2022 UC, I pointed out that the best overall option would be to give us a setting in the options dialog to specify the number of decimals for display. But providing that ability will take more time to test for issues after building that functionality into Pro, making it harder to get on a work plan for implementation. And, as you point out, this thread has been all about more decimal places rather than fewer--mainly returning the display to the former 6 places. That is an easy 'fix' and requires almost no testing other than to make the change and verify it now displays that number of decimal places.

In the overall view of things I would love the flexibility of the options dialog setting. But I'd rather have decimal places back in the short term and request the dialog option as an enhancement to be implemented in one of the upcoming development sprints.

Perhaps submit your Statistics functionality desires in an Idea. If you share a link to it in this thread, I know that I will gladly upvote it and I am sure others will as well.

ChristopherAllen

Hi @JenelleBlack ,

Thanks for your feedback. We've discussed adding configuration options for the number of decimal places displayed, and we hope to implement this in the near term.

I'll also relay your suggestion to give users more control over the location and style of the statistics table. But, as Brian suggested, it might be best to submit this as a Pro Idea.

Take care,

Chris

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