Hi everyone, I'd like to create bus route maps by Schematic tool. I'm following the instruction of tutorial and blog to make mock up. My steps are below:* digitized 2 dummy bus routes. They have a middle bit overlap (same geometry) * created points at join segments * created schematic dataset, with layout template as Geo-Partial Overlapping Links, offset 50.00m * generated new schematic diagram with selection * result returned very weird as the points is on top right and lines became points and located bottome left corner. Please see the map attached. [ATTACH=CONFIG]23893[/ATTACH] Any idea what I've missed. Many thanks in advance. Thao view.JPG VHolubec_5-1647873422793.png

Hi Rick, thanks for your respond. I asked the community in Network Analysis area the question above as I though somebody already experienced the same problem (https://community.esri.com/message/456321?et=watches.email.thread#456321) You've been a great help Rick.

It sounds like maybe you posted this same question elsewhere at the same time because the network analyst team already claimed they answered this question but I don't see any info here. Anyway, apparently 750 is what they consider the 'useful' limit for the treeview. After that, if you need to see it you can use the table window to view everything. Hope that helps. This thread has become pretty bloated, so I am going to stop watching it as I have resolved the main issues. Thanks!

Hi Rick, Thank you very much for your reply. I currently has a issue. I solved 20 routes so far with 750 bus stops. When i added the 751th bus stop then the bus stops on network analysis window is disappear. Please see the attached file. Is that the issue with the memory on map document? My mxd is only 1.4MB. error_busStop.pdf

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Bus route map schematic diagram doesn't look right

ThaoTruong

Hi everyone,

I'd like to create bus route maps by Schematic tool. I'm following the instruction of tutorial and blog to make mock up. My steps are below:

digitized 2 dummy bus routes. They have a middle bit overlap (same geometry)
created points at join segments
created schematic dataset, with layout template as Geo-Partial Overlapping Links, offset 50.00m
generated new schematic diagram with selection
result returned very weird as the points is on top right and lines became points and located bottome left corner. Please see the map attached.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]23893[/ATTACH]

Any idea what I've missed.

Many thanks in advance.
Thao

view.JPG

VHolubec_5-1647873422793.png

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RickAnderson

Make sure the configuration is good first. There is a video tutorial called Configuring the Network Dataset Builder available here:

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/communities/schematics/01n600000012000000.htm

For the layout, make sure that your map units are good... Sometimes we see people have map units in Decimal Degrees and then specify a distance in a layout of 50. In your mind you want 50 meters, but the system is using the current map units and 50 decimal degrees is something very different.

ThaoTruong

Hi Rick,

I worked out the problem was that digitizing work is not creating network at all. I created geometric network after I digitised, then I successfully created diagram. The diagram automatically used the symbol from the geometric network symbol as default, which is great. Hope that we'll have something like that in the future for Network Dataset Builder.

By the way, I've watched all of your schematic video tutorial. Very useful and thanks for your tips regarding to the map units.

Cheers.

RickAnderson

Thao,

It should be far simpler with the network dataset actually... You just need to create route solvers for your bus route (or bus routes as multiple buses can be in one solver). Then you generate your diagram from the solvers, not from selecting feature in the actual network dataset. That is demonstrated in the video for configuring for network datasets. I would like to understand more if that is not doing what you need it to do though as it should handle it fine without you having to create a geometric network.

Quick start for transportation:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/communities/schematics/01n60000001v000000.htm

More about the network analyst builder in the help system:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#/Generating_a_diagram_based_on_the_Network_Dataset_builder/004z00000018000000/

Rick

AaronBaumgarden

Rick,

I�??m experiencing a similar issue when trying to generate offsets for our transit lines using the Schematics extension. I feel as though I�??ve tested everything under the sun but I still can�??t get it to produce the offsets like expected. I tried using the route solver as you suggest above but nothing ever happened when I tried to run the �??Geo-Partial Overlapping Links�?� algorithm. I did finally get it to do something when I exported those routes to a feature class and added them to a geometric network inside of a feature dataset. It altered the geometry but not in the way desired (see before and after attachments). I also checked my map units and they appear to be in feet not decimal degrees.

I�??ve watched several of the training videos and read through quite a bit of the help documentation and now I�??m just feeling stuck. I�??ve also tried recreating the templates using both the Standard Builder and Network Dataset Builder and I can�??t get the algorithm to run on my schematic diagram. Anything you can think of that I might be missing?

Thanks,

Aaron

[ATTACH=CONFIG]33183[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]33184[/ATTACH]

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RickAnderson

Hard to say without seeing it. The parameters (properties) of the partially overlapping links layout algorithm are based on the map units. So make sure that the values used for the offset make sense. For example, if the map is in inches, then an offset of 2 won't be visible. If you could generate that diagram into a schematic dataset in a personal or file geodatabase and share it with me, I can take a quick look.

You have probably already looked at the help info for the layout algorithm, but just in case you haven't, here is the link:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#/Geo_Partial_Overlapping_Links_layout_algorithm_properties/004z0000003r000000/

Looking back at the thread, I don't see that you ever said what version of software you are running. That would be very helpful as well since things do and have changed along the way.

AaronBaumgarden

Rick,

I'm using version 10.2.

I'd be glad to share a file geodatabase with you but I'd rather not have it posted for all to see. Shall I send you a private message?

Thanks,

Aaron

RickAnderson

I just pm'd you

AaronBaumgarden

Hello all,

I wanted to provide a quick update for those of you interested in using Schematics for bus route maps.

After much help from Rick and several rounds of testing we were finally able to get the extension to work in the way we had hoped. The result for us is 12 bus routes that now have offsets applied in only the places where multiple routes overlap. By using the output from a multi-route solver to generate our diagram we were able to fix many of the issues encountered early on.

I've attached a small portion of our final system map if you would like to see what the resulting product looks like. The big thing to note here is that our new system map was generated without the use of other graphics software.

If anyone is exploring this option (Schematics) and would like to know more about our trials and tribulations, just let me know.

Thanks,

Aaron

FinalMap_sample.jpg

RickAnderson

Looks good Aaron, congrats! And thanks for your willingness to share your knowledge and experience with others.

ThaoTruong

Hi Aaron,

Thanks for the update on your post.

Hi Rick, I'm trying with your suggestion that using network dataset. Is it possible to create multiple bus route in one solve? How do I do it?

Thanks in advance.

Thao

RickAnderson

Yes Thao, when you create your stops, you need to set a property of the stop with a specific Route name. Then when the solver runs, it knows to treat those stops with individual routes.

ThaoTruong

Thank you Rick. I got it generate like the way I want. However, I receive error when generate schematic diagram. It's saying 'Error during schematic diagram generation. Unable to create schematic feature class. The name of the Field is invalid: valid names may contain letters, numbers or underscores.' Please see the attached files for detail the problem. Would this be solve easily?

error.docx.pdf

RickAnderson

The error is on the internal schematic tables it looks like. If you create a brand new fgdb with a schematic dataset and 1 diagram template configured for the network dataset builder and then try this again, is it OK? Make sure the builder is network dataset. Here is a link to the tutorial showing this.

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