I am having a hard time making a nice looking dashed line with ticks in ArcGIS. I tried it in the symbol property editor using two cartographic lines:

Looks like it is exactly what I need. But when it draws it does not put the ticks perpendicular to the line segment. Yuck!

I also played around with representations as well, but they also did not make the ticks perpendicular to the line segment.
I did look at this Creating regular ticks (Production Mapping), but we do not have the Production Mapping extension. ArcGIS Help 10.1
Suggestions?
Thanks,
Forest