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I have LAZ data and need to convert it to las format.......

MelissaRoesner

I downloaded data from Noaa that is in .LAZ format. I need to convert it to .LAS format. I have the lastools toolbox and have looked through the tools and not had much luck yet. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get these files converted? Thanks

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MattWilkie1

Some days it's hard not to be cynical. The geonet forums have posts going back to at least 2013, but somehow the "Support LAZ format" idea has been pulled.

BethanyMuñoz_Delgado

I know this post is over 3 years old, but I'm wondering how others have installed PDAL? I've tried installing via Conda, creating a .pth file to link to the installed module, and then importing but receive the following error. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong? Thanks!

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BrianWilson

Agree 100%, I stand corrected.

I remember that lengthy gap when agencies started publishing file geodatabases and I had no way to read them. Then ESRI published binaries instead of specs, and only for later versions of FGDB so I still had no way to read them.

With LiDAR it's especially painful because of the time and space required to unformat LAZ -> LAS and then reformat LAS -> zLAS

It is slowing my adoption of the technology by making it easier to compromise and use lower res DEMs.

MartinIsenburg1

You are not correct in your statement about "the rapidlasso guy". He does not speak of the evils of "closed source". He speaks of the evils of "closed formats" especially when forced down the throat of a community by the mere market dominance of a company. Prior to the "LAZ clone" fiasco he was quite friendly with Esri as he is with many other closed source companies. What business model Esri uses to operate in the software business was never his beef with them. But Esri using their dominant role to push a closed LiDAR format and thereby making it impossible for other software to directly exploit this #LiDAR data, that is what he and others were critiquing. He writes both open and closed source software. As long as the formats are open both business models can live side by side in harmony.

Below an image and a quote from ESRI’s ArcNews Spring 2011 news letter about the importance of open formats, standards, and specifications. This is discussed in more detail in this blog post.

“Esri continues to advocate the need for open access to geographic data and functionality through support for widely adopted and practical standards and specifications. Esri follows an open system strategy for accessing and using geographic data and functionality.” — ArcNews, Spring 2011

MattWilkie3

pdal is excellent in my experience (admittedly limited to ~40 hours so far), but it can't read zLAS and there's little appetite to add that from the core team (ref). They'll accept contribution from anyone who wants to do the work though.

BrianWilson

Has anyone tried PDAL yet? (See pdal.io webside) It seems like it might be a reasonable compromise.

I want to keep lidar source data in the format in which I download it (LAZ) and I want to produce products from it (typically contours, hillshades). These days I seem to do 90% of my GIS work in Python scripts so a workflow that can do that would be ideal for me-- I would preprocess in a PDAL tool chain to produce an intermediate product (a DEM) and then do the remaining processing in ArcGIS.

The rapidlasso guy is always going on about the evils of closed source but he's producing closed source... the option he gives me is the ability to move from LAZ to LAS, requiring massive disk space then to manage LAS.

I'd be fine with using a tool chain that's all ESRI as long as it does not require converting terabytes of data from LAZ to LAS to zLAS as the first step. I already voted for the LAZ support idea.

MattWilkie3

There is an Idea asking Esri to add a LAZ driver, please go vote it up:

Support LAZ format

bharold

Data Interoperability extension can convert LAZ to LAS Dataset.

Regards

JonDouglas

would be wise for ESRI to consider enabling direct import of LAZ dataset into a LAS dataset. Data size is much more manageable. Extra conversion with zLAS seems like a re-invented wheel that doesnt work as well as LAZ

PeterVersteeg

In the download there are arcgis toolboxes and in the LAStools.tbx there is a arcscript laszip that wil also unzip to las

gr Peter

RichardWatson

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#/What_is_a_LAS_dataset/015w00000057000000/

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#/An_overview_of_the_LAS_Dataset_toolset/001700000172000000/

MelissaRoesner

After converting the files to .las should they show up in arcCatalog? Also how do you get .las files into a map? Sorry for all the questions, I have never used las files before.

brucesimonson

I downloaded data from Noaa that is in .LAZ format. I need to convert it to .LAS format. I have the lastools toolbox and have looked through the tools and not had much luck yet. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get these files converted? Thanks

Simplest thing would be to go to the www.laszip.org site, and download the zip files for the executables there. This is a very fine toolset; you can find versions for "drag and drop" on the desktop (i.e., drag a LAZ file onto the laszip icon, and it will make a LAS version, and vice versa), or, command line forms executable from batch files or unix shells.

To get started, I would go to this page:

http://www.laszip.org/

and look about halfway down, where you will find a paragraph heading called "Background". In the middle of the second paragraph, you will find a link to the executable laszip.exe. To check this software out, just click on this file, to download it into a working directory of your choice. Then, put one of your LAZ files into this directory, and get into a DOS window, and type

laszip yourfile.laz

and it should create a version called yourfile.las

There are many command switches in the laszip.exe executable. Takes a while to get used to them and to figure them out, but you can filter by elevation, return number, return type, and other parameters. Also, you can export to a variety of formats, including ascii, shapefiles, and more.

The way to get the switches in the command line version, is standard, i.e.,

lazip -h

(for help).

This is very good software. I use it extensively, particularly in batch mode (unix shells) to work with very large LiDAR datasets. Give it a try, you won't be disappointed. If you really like it, you may want to purchase the developer's full software suite (I haven't); the tool described above is a free product. Do check out the developer's site, at http://rapidlasso.com/ as well. Good stuff. I don't know Martin Isenberg, nor he me.

Good luck,
-Bruce

PS: After you get done trying it out, and you like it, I recommend copying the executable (laszip.exe) into a stable directory, and add this directory in your path. That way, you can use the tool without having a copy in your working directory, or referencing the directory where the executable is located when you want to use it.

PPS: Oh yeah, what's the point? The LAZ zipped format is far more sophisticated than just a regular old ZIP file, and the compression size is something around 10%. Saves heaps of space on your disk drives. It's worth reading Martin's paper, on his website, to see how smart this software really is.

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