Migrating to ArcSDE database 10.1- ArcGIS Sever Licence Administrator

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07-16-2013 08:40 AM
TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Hi,

Our current GIS system is SDE database 9.3.1 and ArcGIS Desktop and ArcGIS Server 10.

We are planning to migrate our SDE 9.3.1 database to 10.1. I read from ESRI documentation that ArcGIS 10 clients can read sde dabase 10.1. Therefore, we are not migrating them to 10.1

Currently our ArcGIS Sever Licence Administrator is 10. Will this work with sde dabase 10.1?

Thanks,

T
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AsrujitSengupta
Regular Contributor III
Tamara,

You cannot upgrade a sde gdb to 10.1, without having Desktop 10.1. To upgrade the gdb to 10.1, you will have to install Desktop 10.1.

As far as for compatibility, YES the Desktop 10.0 clients can work with a sde 10.1 gdb.

Client and geodatabase compatibility:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//003n00000008000000

The above link mentions:
1. ArcGIS 10 can open and edit a 10.1 geodatabase. Be aware, though, that the ArcGIS 10 client will not have access to 10.1 functionality and will not be able to edit data, such as network datasets or mosaic datasets, that are using 10.1 functionality.
2. Your ArcGIS 10 clients should be patched to at least service pack 2 if you will be connecting to a 10.1 geodatabase.

When you make a connection between releases�??for example, if you connect from ArcGIS for Desktop 10.1 to an ArcSDE 9.3 geodatabase�??the functionality available to you is limited by the lowest release number. In this example, you would not have access to functionality available in 10.1 since the geodatabase is still at the 9.3 release. Similarly, though ArcGIS 10 clients can open, query, edit, and save data in 10.1 geodatabases, they cannot open datasets with 10.1 functionality. For example, you cannot access file geodatabases that were compressed using ArcGIS 10.1, the editor tracking fields in 10.1 feature classes will not be populated when connecting or editing from 10 clients, and you cannot use 10.1 network dataset or mosaic dataset functionality

Regards,
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TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Tamara,

You cannot upgrade a sde gdb to 10.1, without having Desktop 10.1. To upgrade the gdb to 10.1, you will have to install Desktop 10.1.

As far as for compatibility, YES the Desktop 10.0 clients can work with a sde 10.1 gdb.

Client and geodatabase compatibility:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//003n00000008000000

The above link mentions:
1. ArcGIS 10 can open and edit a 10.1 geodatabase. Be aware, though, that the ArcGIS 10 client will not have access to 10.1 functionality and will not be able to edit data, such as network datasets or mosaic datasets, that are using 10.1 functionality.
2. Your ArcGIS 10 clients should be patched to at least service pack 2 if you will be connecting to a 10.1 geodatabase.

When you make a connection between releases�??for example, if you connect from ArcGIS for Desktop 10.1 to an ArcSDE 9.3 geodatabase�??the functionality available to you is limited by the lowest release number. In this example, you would not have access to functionality available in 10.1 since the geodatabase is still at the 9.3 release. Similarly, though ArcGIS 10 clients can open, query, edit, and save data in 10.1 geodatabases, they cannot open datasets with 10.1 functionality. For example, you cannot access file geodatabases that were compressed using ArcGIS 10.1, the editor tracking fields in 10.1 feature classes will not be populated when connecting or editing from 10 clients, and you cannot use 10.1 network dataset or mosaic dataset functionality

Regards,


Hi,

Many thanks for your reply. Very usefull information.

T
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TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Hi,

Many thanks for your reply. Very usefull information.

T


ArcGIS 10 can open and edit a 10.1 geodatabase. Be aware, though, that the ArcGIS 10 client will not have access to 10.1 functionality and will not be able to edit data, such as network datasets or mosaic datasets, that are using 10.1 functionality.
2. Your ArcGIS 10 clients should be patched to at least service pack 2 if you will be connecting to a 10.1 geodatabase.

Hi,

Regarding editing network datasets and mosaic,  is this funtionallity not available on 10?  I mean If I had ArcGIS Desktop 10 and  SDE 10, could I edit the network datasets and mosaic datasets?

Thanks,

T
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AsrujitSengupta
Regular Contributor III
Tamara,

ArcGIS 10 can open and edit a 10.1 geodatabase. Be aware, though, that the ArcGIS 10 client will not have access to 10.1 functionality and will not be able to edit data, such as network datasets or mosaic datasets, that are using 10.1 functionality.


The above is applicable only if the data that you are editing is using any new 10.1 functionality, which was not present in 10.0 !

For more reference on "What's new at 10.1", you can have a look at the below links:
What's new in ArcGIS 10.1:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/pdf/whats_new_in_arcgis.pdf

What's new for editing in ArcGIS 10.1
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//016w0000002v000000

If you simply upgrade your geodatabase to 10.1 and don't make any changes/add new functionality to your existing data using 10.1, you can edit the same data using Client 10.0 w/o any problem.

Regards,
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TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Hi,

Many thanks again. It is clear for me now

T
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TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Tamara,



The above is applicable only if the data that you are editing is using any new 10.1 functionality, which was not present in 10.0 !

For more reference on "What's new at 10.1", you can have a look at the below links:
What's new in ArcGIS 10.1:
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/pdf/whats_new_in_arcgis.pdf

What's new for editing in ArcGIS 10.1
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//016w0000002v000000

If you simply upgrade your geodatabase to 10.1 and don't make any changes/add new functionality to your existing data using 10.1, you can edit the same data using Client 10.0 w/o any problem.

Regards,


Hi,

Not sure if you can help me again. Our current system is ArcGIS Desktop 10, ArcGIS Sever 10 and sde database 9.3.1. I was thinking of migrating the sde database 9.3.1 to 10.1 as ESRI will provide support on 9.3.1 until the end of this year. Now, looking at the 10.2 release, it seems to be I can migrate to sde database 10.2 as clients 10 can read and edit sde database 10.2 although with the same restrictions you mentioned about funtionallity. Is this correct? Could I migrate to sde database 10.2 without any compactibility issues?

thanks,
t
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AsrujitSengupta
Regular Contributor III
Tamara,

The same restrictions are applicable if you directly upgrade your sde gdb to 10.2.

Client and geodatabase compatibility (10.2):
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.2/index.html#//003n00000008000000

The above link contains all the required information.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
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TAMARADIEZ
New Contributor III
Tamara,

The same restrictions are applicable if you directly upgrade your sde gdb to 10.2.

Client and geodatabase compatibility (10.2):
http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.2/index.html#//003n00000008000000

The above link contains all the required information.

Hope this helps!

Regards,


Hi,

Many thanks again for your information.

Regards,

Tamara
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