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Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:35:28 GMT

Hi,

My name is Rajesh Mane. We are planning to implement Utility network for our existing datamodel. Our datamodel replicated from Ericson's Network Engineer data model. It built on geometric network principals.

Can any idea do we have anything similar which can ease our migration of existing datamodel to esri's utility network.

Does esri provides sample datamodel which built on UN for Telecommunications and fiber networks.

We would appreciate If ESRI throw some highlights on this topic as well.

In my search , I saw several topics in Utility network that supports GAS , WATER and Electric but not much on Telco side. If any one has implemented or migrated their telco network then pls share your experience.

I heard there is Utility network configuration extension required to built compressive datamodel. Any plans for release similar for telco ? If yes. By when ?

Thanks in advance

Regards,

Rajesh Mane

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RobertKrisher — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:31:57 GMT

The Telco model has not yet been released. Last I heard it was scheduled to be released sometime around either the UC or the end of the year (2018).

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

HowardCrothers — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:44:23 GMT

As rkrisher‌ said, the Telecommunications Utility Network Configuration, which will include the telco data model, has not been released yet. Currently, we anticipate a Q2 2019 release.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Wed, 16 May 2018 12:22:27 GMT

Hi Robert,

I have one small query. As you have said telco model not yet released. Can we still go for Utility Network and its extension. If yes, How ?

Regards,

Rajesh

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RobertKrisher — Wed, 16 May 2018 13:03:38 GMT

Rajesh,

That's a great question for you to take to your Esri representative. Because getting from your current model to the new telco model will require performing a data conversion you could begin putting this on your road map. If you wanted to be an early adopter you could begin by standing up an environment to get familiar with one of the models that has been released (electric, water, or gas) along with the tools and workflows provided by the application. If you were to start standing up a sandbox now that would give you approximately one year to get familiar with the Utility Network and begin planning for how you will adopt it going forward.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Wed, 16 May 2018 13:15:49 GMT

Thanks.

We are putting that on our roadmap. Happy to hear more on this from your representative.

Also , Schematics diagrams that are currently on 9.3.1. Any roadmap for migration those in Network diagrams?

Regards,

Rajesh

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RobertKrisher — Wed, 16 May 2018 13:30:08 GMT

Rajesh,

To be clear, I don't work for or represent Esri with anything I do. I'm just another GIS developer dealing with a lot of the same questions right now. I would recommend you reach out to Esri about schematics, I haven't heard about any tools for converting schematics into diagrams.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Wed, 16 May 2018 13:35:07 GMT

I have one small query. As you have said telco model not yet released. Can we still go for Utility Network and its extension. If yes, How ?

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Wed, 16 May 2018 13:37:26 GMT

HI,

Apologies for miscommunication. I will take this concern personnel.

Rajesh

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

HowardCrothers — Wed, 16 May 2018 14:31:12 GMT

Yes, you can still use the utility network without an Esri supplied a telco data model today. You would need to create your own data model and configure a utility network for it.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RajeshMane3 — Wed, 16 May 2018 14:42:32 GMT

Appreciate Howard for quick reply.

My organization is new to Pro. We want to stay away from Ericsson Network engineer. As you have said we can still use our datamodel but we don't have it. Currently what we have is Ericsson Network engineer and its datamodel. We are in the process of creating our own telco datamodel but what we know is Geometric network. The current version is 9.3.1. Also as per my exploration on esri documentation UN has its extension for various stream (e.g. electric , Gas, water). So in that case do we need wait for that ? and how it gives benefit to UN Datamodel ?

IF we build our datamodel with some existing datamodel study , will we able leverage the benefits of UN functionalities that are currently available in Pro. In future as esri said earlier, if they come up with esri datamodel and UN extension for Telco how we can migrate. I need to understand this first. If you brief something on this lines would be highly appreciable.

Regards,

Rajesh Mane

TechM

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

HowardCrothers — Wed, 16 May 2018 15:29:28 GMT

My advice is to talk through those items with your Esri account manager. I don't think a discussion forum is the best place to have a dialogue around the questions you are asking.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

DamienPyne — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:20:59 GMT

hcrothers-esristaff , Robert Krisher do you have an update on this?

Is there a beta version of the model available?

Damien

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RobertKrisher — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:31:52 GMT

Damien,

I'm not an Esri person so I'm in the same boat as you 😃 The last status I saw on this was on another thread ( https://community.esri.com/thread/214206-esri-utility-network-configuration-and-migration-tool-status ) that quoted Q3 2019. Here's hoping 😃

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

HowardCrothers — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:22:21 GMT

Hi Damien

We don't have a beta version that we can share yet. Currently, we are targeting a Q1 2020 release.

I updated the thread Robert shared above to reflect that date.

Regards,

Howard

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

DamienPyne — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 01:44:46 GMT

Thanks Howard,

Is there any information on the model itself you can provide? Proposed data model? Proposed capability - ie is this just the bearers, or will it manage the individual fibers?

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

SpatialNinja — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:54:55 GMT

Damien Pyne‌ There will be an Esri blog that comes out soon that will provide that information. We'll be giving an update on the data model with intent that we get feedback and crowdsource a best of breed model with our users, and we'll be providing a list of capabilities that we are looking to provide at first release.

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

RobertBorchert — Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:29:38 GMT

Anything yet?

Re: Utility network for Telecommunications

SpatialNinja — Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:06:59 GMT

This blog provides an update. https://community.esri.com/community/telecommunications/blog/2019/08/05/network-transformation-a-strategic-investment-in-new-capabilities