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T3G2017 AGO Topic: Content/Sharing

CharlieFitzpatrick — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 06:17:11 GMT

In T3G2017, as part of homework AFTER Day 1 (April22) and BEFORE Day2 (by Thu April27), we want participants to look at information on GeoNet and post a question, offer an answer, or give an observation about working in ArcGIS Online Organization accounts. The four themes from which to choose and contribute at least one entry are

Technical: start up, generating logins, setting roles and privileges
Content/sharing: Getting users generating and sharing content
Collaboration: Creating, using, and managing groups effectively
Management: Organization operations, especially maintenance at end of marking period, semester, or year.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT CONTENT/SHARING ASPECTS. (REPLY BELOW)

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__invited__richardbschultz720 — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:28:03 GMT

Is there a "best practices" document somewhere for getting users to generate content? I'm having some issues getting folks to engage...

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BarbareeDuke — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:28:33 GMT

What are your favorite starter ideas for sharing with educators? I like sharing a map that connects with a map series story map that embedded. It gives folks a good idea on where to start.

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AlexNorthrup1 — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:28:47 GMT

I am curious if it is possible for users to work simultaneously on the same map - if so, how?

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BarbareeDuke — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:28:56 GMT

Great idea Rich!

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ShanaCrosson1 — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:48:15 GMT

I've had experienced teachers users tell me it's not. They get around this by creating a "group" login where a number of students use the same login in order to work on a map together. I'd love to know of another way to do this!

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BarbareeDuke — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:59:34 GMT

One way to get this feeling is to use the crowdsource story map. It allows folks to add images and some text and see the results live. If you get a little creative you can have folks give valid data input, even though the tool is image driven. For example, I had students take a photo and the text input needed to be a haiku. For science, perhaps students photo a sample and respond to prescribed questions in the text area. It's great for a teacher group to do a scavenger hunt of ideas too. You have to think "outside the map" but get folks involved and thinking.

Survey123 gives good ways to collect data.

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ShanaCrosson1 — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:17:46 GMT

That's a great idea, Barbara! This would work really well for some types of creating shared maps. Hmmm -- I have an idea I'm going to try with a group of teachers!

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JaniceElvidge — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:51:52 GMT

I've started using data collection, either by iNaturalist or AGOL, as part of a field investigation in teacher training. We lead them through how to conduct and then develop field investigations and use both paper and digital data collection from the beginning. We then show them their data. If they take the "advanced" class the next day we teach them how to use the program and look at, display and analyze the data.

We've found that by not telling them that they are going to do ArcGIS and just embedding it in the training they don't freak out!

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Margaret_ShawChernosky — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:33:54 GMT

What is the best way for students to share subscriber content with people not in an ORG account? One answer that I found is described here Using subscriber content in Web Apps and Story Maps | ArcGIS Blog . If this is the best way; how many credits are consumed?

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InaAhern — Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:35:42 GMT

There are several issues here. First of all, it IS possible to have users work on the same map by having the organization admin create a group that allows all users to modify the maps, and then getting the map shared with the group. However from the reference I found at: Enable colleagues to update your maps and apps | ArcGIS Blog this works for maps and some Apps, but not all. My students were not successful with it using the Apps they wanted to use.

A group login can allow users to work on the same map, but not at the same time. I warned my students of this, but on Friday one partnership found this out the hard way. Both students had been working on one map and one was configuring popups while the other was symbolizing several layers. When the popup person saved at the end of the period, suddenly all the symbology for the layers disappeared as the symbology had been saved previously but was not on the "copy" of the map the popup person was using. Unfortunately, students are so used to working in Google files they've come to expect simultaneous editing.

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SusanLahti — Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:26:11 GMT

If I am working with a school/informal educators' group that is just beginning to investigate the power of AGO, what is the best way to have them collect data and share it in a map that will not 'freak' the new teacher out? We have done mapping with INaturalist but I would like to move them onto StoryMaps and wondered if others had success with this. Can I set up an org account for them using our Org even if it does not have an .edu. url?

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DominiqueEvans-Bye — Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:42:27 GMT

There is a crowdsource template, but I haven't had much luck with it. It only seems to work with the default light grey basemap. If you change the basemap, it will work for a short while, then won't show the map anymore. I tried crowdsourcing Darwin's sightings in the Galapagos portion of the Voyage of the Beagle, but it died every time:

http://arcg.is/2ozZIU1

http://arcg.is/2oSDYn6

http://arcg.is/2oldkQC

I did finally get just a plain map to hold some data:

http://arcg.is/2p3KpDZ

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RebeccaLilja1 — Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:35:40 GMT

Yes I have moved teachers from mapping to storymaps in one day!

If a teacher/person is brand new to GIS, I often encourage them to get a Developers account to practice if they are hesitant to set up a school org. Using the Developers account they can play with lessons.arcgis.com content or the a MOOC and get a good foundation - along with the PD and support I provide .

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HeidiRagsdale — Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:04:42 GMT

Barbara-

I love the idea of trying out a Scavenger Hunt type activity using the Survey123. I think I will give this a shot in my next teacher training. Have you successfully used this specifically with teacher training so far?

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HeidiRagsdale — Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:06:39 GMT

I love that there is stamina within educators to move from mapping to StoryMapping in one day! I think the practical application of StoryMaps within classrooms is huge and I am setting forth with trying some student created StoryMaps as our last unit in 8th grade Science this year! Looking forward to it!

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ShanaCrosson1 — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 03:21:15 GMT

Thank you for that info about the group. That is exactly what I need!

The group login approach makes me so nervous for exactly the reason you state, as well as just the old IT rule of never, ever sharing passwords!

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ShanaCrosson1 — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 03:23:10 GMT

We are finding that starting with simple Story Maps, like a Map Tour, is an easy way to get teachers comfortable with this tool. I usually do short conference sessions, so don't have time to both mapping and Story Maps. Some teachers in Minnesota are working on step-by-step directions for teachers and students to create Story Maps. Will share here when they are complete.

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SusanLahti — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:30:53 GMT

This is helpful to me. Loving story naps for quick and personalized exercises.

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BarbareeDuke — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:43:59 GMT

Heidi,

Indeed I have! I used it with Survey123, the crowdsource story map and snap2map. It's a great way to show how to get a "GPS" experience with just a phone. It's a "think starter" for teachers to connect with possible ideas in their own setting.