topic Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment? in Python Questions

How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

ShawnCarson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 20:45:57 GMT

I have cloned my python environment using Environment Manager in Pro

So I have this:

C:\Users\xxxxxx\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\arcgispro-py3-clone\Scripts

Question: There is no conda.exe anywhere here. Don't I get a conda.exe when I clone?

The only place I found a conda.exe is here (default install): C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\Scripts

When you clone, it literally creates a folder called Conda. Why don't I get a conda.exe?

Thanks for reading! Have a good weekend everyone.

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

Brian_Wilson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:33:57 GMT

You don't get a copy but you don't need a clone of the conda executable so it does not matter.

What folder are you talking about? I currently have 2 envs that have etc/conda/ folders but those are to hold environment settings.

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

Brian_Wilson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:38:20 GMT

You clone, then you activate the environment, then you can continue using the conda command right? Your PATH should still have the original conda.exe on it. The path gets modified when you activate it to add the stuff it needs to the current environment, and then restored when you deactivate. The part of the PATH for the conda command should exist in both environements.

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

ShawnCarson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:53:02 GMT

Hi Brian,

Thanks for replying. When you say PATH do you mean environmental variable?

The only way I can fire up conda is to fire up a command prompt then cd to here here:

C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\Scripts

I can now type conda list (for example) and it works.

I guess I am just trying to understand if conda.exe is in the clone and how to activate it. I may not fully understand the purpose of it. I thought the whole point of cloning and activating was to have mutually exclustive "silos" of my python stuff including conda. I am trying to lern more about conda so don't let me waste too much of your time. Just trying to make sense of the deluge of material (conda, anaconda, miniconda and how it works w/in Pro.)

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

DanPatterson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 22:47:28 GMT

from a clone.... use conda info

(pro_3) C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3>conda info active environment : pro_3 active env location : C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3 user config file : C:\Users\dan_p\.condarc populated config files : C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\.condarc conda version : 4.9.2 conda-build version : not installed python version : 3.9.12.final.0 virtual packages : __cuda=11.2=0 __win=0=0 __archspec=1=x86_64 base environment : C:\arc_pro\bin\Python (writable) channel URLs : https://conda.anaconda.org/esri/win-64 https://conda.anaconda.org/esri/noarch https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/win-64 https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/noarch https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/win-64 https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/noarch https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/msys2/win-64 https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/msys2/noarch package cache : C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\pkgs C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\pkgs C:\Users\dan_p\.conda\pkgs envs directories : C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs C:\Users\dan_p\.conda\envs platform : win-64 user-agent : conda/4.9.2 requests/2.27.1 CPython/3.9.12 Windows/10 Windows/10.0.22000 administrator : False netrc file : None offline mode : False (pro_3) C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3>

and

(pro_3) C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3>conda env list # conda environments: # pro_3 * C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3 base C:\arc_pro\bin\Python arcgispro-py3 C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3 (pro_3) C:\Users\dan_p\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\pro_3>

of course there is

Anaconda Nucleus

and

Conda Cheatsheet: Your Guide to Basic Conda Commands (anaconda.cloud)

It takes a while but it is navigable eventually

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

DanPatterson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 22:52:48 GMT

I create a desktop shortcut to run

C:\... ArcGISPro Install Folder\bin\Python\Scripts\proenv.bat

with

Start In

set to

C:\... ArcGISPro Install Folder\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3

Also, some python IDE's can run conda from within. Spyder, for example, has line magics that allow you to run conda from the editor

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

Brian_Wilson — Fri, 01 Jul 2022 23:34:35 GMT

I just put the conda.exe I use on my PATH environment variable so that it's always available to me in every shell or IDE. It's the second line here.

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

Anonymous User — Sat, 02 Jul 2022 12:16:09 GMT

There is a Python Command Prompt that is in the ArcGIS app folder you can use to skip the cd commands.

Starting the Python Command Prompt starts a conda command prompt in the currently active Pro environment.

If you want to change the active env to your clone, its a simple command: activate <your env>.

If you want set the env to be the active env in Pro, use the command: proswap <your env>. The next time you open the Python Command Prompt, it would start in the env you set and Pro will be set.

Re: How to use Conda in my cloned environment?

ShawnCarson — Tue, 05 Jul 2022 14:22:57 GMT

Thanks to BrianWilson DanPatterson and JeffK.

They each provided me the info and solved.

ANSWER: There is only one conda.exe. It lives here: C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\Scripts

to use conda in your cloned environment, you fire up conda.exe and type this:

activate C:\Users\TheUser\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\arcgispro-py3-clone

Then when you type this: "conda info" you can confirm which environment you are in. (Thank you DanP)

If you fire up conda.exe without activating your clone, the "conda info" is pointing to your default environment (C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3)

Thanks guys. Would never have figure this out.