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What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:34:31 GMT

Hi,

I know this is a very simple question, but I know some python to understand some of the basics and I was wondering what would be the best possible solution, or direction, for studying python. I still struggle with small scripts from time to time, with very small number of them actually working the way I intended. So I just wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions on how to go about this.

The other thing is I came across other sites and other sources of python examples that I would eventually like to be at or close to the level of a novice python developer. Eventually I would like to expand on that even further, but as of now I can handle small scripts here and there and so I am starting out low and slow.

Here are somethings that I came across that I would like to know more about and be able to understand and utilize.

Any of the Esri breakdowns for tools and such

10. API Reference — Python 2.7.16 documentation

tkinter — Python interface to Tcl/Tk — Python 3.7.4 documentation

Re: What is the best way to study python?

JoshuaBixby — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:43:51 GMT

This question has come up several times on GeoNet. A quick search gives some good threads:

Re: What is the best way to study python?

ThomasColson — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:01:44 GMT

The way I learned (and let's be clear, no one will be coming to me with py questions...ever....), is I set some specific goal I wanted to do with Python, and for me, that was/is data management automation. I have a LOT of data, and touching it every day was killing my schedule. So I googled stuff like "how to publish to AGOL with python" and "how to manage portal groups with python". I quickly learned that no matter how crazy the thing was that I wanted to do, someone else has already done it, and I just lifted their code from Github. Then I had to make it work in my environment, so what I did was execute each line, line by line, in a py exe window, which not only kinda sorta taught me what the line did, but what I needed to change to make it work. Over years, I have learned enough that I'm able to cherry pick code blocks from various scripts and piece them together to do entirely new things. I recently had to learn, very quickly, how to publish (and delete) 1000 services to Portal.....

Here's something new I'm going to try with my staff, that might work for you:

Instead of using ArcToolbox in Pro, for the 100 or so GP operations we do in a day, we're going to start running the same tool(s) out of the python window with the syntax reference open in another monitor.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

JoshuaBixby — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:54:16 GMT

Robert, I agree with Thomas completely. The best way to learn is by apply/doing. You can read all the books and tutorials you can find, or take as many classes as you have money for, but until you start applying it to solve questions/issue/etc..., it won't really click for you.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

Jeremy_Moore — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:26:42 GMT

I 100% agree with this. I learned by solving problems that limited my workflows. I also took it further by buying single board computers like beaglebone or Raspberry PI and programmed some home automation in python for the computer to control. If you start writing code to solve real world problems you will learn quick, just stick with it because the learning curve can be daunting.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:04:19 GMT

I came to that conclusion about a week ago when I was tasked with a simple assignment that, to my knowledge, they had been doing by hand for several years. I had done this task by hand just to learn the workflow and after a couple of times, I realized that this process could easily be rendered seamless if I could simply create something (either python script, modebuilder, or both) that would convert an elongated methodology and simplify it. The other thing is that I have been trying to get the scripts that I have created so far to work in process in modelbuilder. The reason being is that if either I or someone else wanted to use it, it wouldn't be confined to whatever parameters I set up in the script. For some projects that are like this, I have used models most of the time to simplify these tasks. But I realized that some of the tools I need to reach the end result that I wanted, didn't exist, or hadn't been created. So I came to the conclusion that learning python would help fill in the gaps where some of the tools weren't provided or created. But I also realized that some of the python processes I was lacking, and so I don't have quite a solid foundation on most of those. I understand basics like classes, modules, simple scripts, some loops(could probably use more practice with those) and many other things<---like 98.99% of those things

My friend and I had practiced python before, and I even took a class on it. Unfortunately we were using the Esri python book, which made little to no sense, and lacked anything in terms of understanding the principles and such. I would like to eventually get to the point where I can I can comfortably create scripts that would get to the result(s) that I picture.

So I will keep trying and practicing, and do my best to not get lost since I had little to no understanding on how much a person could really accomplish just using python alone.

Thanks for your help Jeremy, and everyone who continues to give wisdom and guidance

-Robert

Re: What is the best way to study python?

Jeremy_Moore — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:40:43 GMT

Sounds like you are very motivated! One of the things that I do for all of my non-server side scripts that are meant to be run from ArcGIS Destop is I put them all in toolbox and put the tool box in my script folder. I then set them up to be configured with the GUI that comes standard with ArcMap or Pro. This allows people to easily change the the variables as parameters so they act like a normal geoprocessing tool.

Back to your original question about studying and learning. One of the biggest things you can do is get set up with a good Integrated Development Environment (IDE) to write python in. My favorite is pycharm and I highly recommend it. Also learn how to swap the python environment interpreter between 2.7 and 3.x so you can write code for both ArcMap, Pro and ArcGIS API for Python in pycharm.

I also recommend the basic python classes on teamtreehouse.com . A few of my engineer friends highly recommend this website and it does look good. I personally use udemy.com as well as teamtreehouse to learn new things.

One thing you should know... python is taking over the world. You have chosen a good time to start learning.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 02:56:24 GMT

The other thing is that I would like to get to the point where I can script well enough in python to be able to fully utilize the python addin tool. I discovered this a year or to ago and I was really intrigued with how easy it was to create an addin tool simply using python. The other thing people have mentioned to me as well is the arcobjects for visual studio(which I would also like to learn eventually) simply because the idea of a greater level of flexibility would make simple or complex tasks seem seamless. So there is a lot that I would like to utilize, in addition to python, to further enhance my skill set. I am currently working on a complex 3D model using Microstation, CityEngine, and ArcPro. I would like to eventually create tools to go along with that model. I am still in the design phase but once everything is set up, I hope to eventually enhance the model further.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

JoshuaBixby — Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:41:19 GMT

Just a note of caution, Esri has yet to migrate the Python Addin to ArcGIS Pro. See https://community.esri.com/ideas/10509

Re: What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 12:39:08 GMT

Ok. I haven't tried adding a python addin tool to pro just yet since I would like to be able to create the kind of tools needed for both the model that I am working on as well as other things.

Re: What is the best way to study python?

HenryLindemann — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:11:04 GMT

So Before you even go into the Arcpy or ArcGIS Modules build up a base understanding of python

ArcGIS Desktop is using Python 2.7

ArcGIS Pro is using Python 3.x

I came across this excellent course in Udemy it is well worth your time for learning python.

https://www.udemy.com/share/1000dOAkQddFhXRnQ=/

A Great Resource for ArcGIS module is the ArcGIS API for Python | ArcGIS for Developers site t because this module is becoming more and more relevant and is definitely the future of Python GIS in my opinion.

for tools in ArcGIS pro have a look at this.

https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/tool-reference

and for ArcMAP

https://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/tools

And Keep in mind python 2.7 is retiring

Python 2.7 Countdown

Re: What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:17:44 GMT

Thanks Henry,

I will definitely take a look at those when I get the chance. I am still practicing python at work to see if I can script tools simple and straight forward enough that I can fill in the gaps where I find them. I will keep creating and modifying the scripts to see if the way that they were typed could be simplified so it will take less processing time. I really appreciate the pointers on where to learn and what to learn when it comes to python. I would also like to get good enough to where I can utilize the python library that Esri has built into python, things ranging from dialogue boxes to sending and receiving emails. Eventually I would like to automate as much as I humanly can, especially for tasks that consists of redundancy.

-Robert

Re: What is the best way to study python?

DanPatterson_Retired — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:54:13 GMT

/blogs/dan_patterson/2019/05/24/the-py-links-ii

Robert, things pythonic of note are posted in my blog.

Skip python 2, stick with 3. Get familiar with more than 1 python IDE.

I use Spyder (mostly) for my main work but I have used Pycharm and Pyscripter in the past. I routinely use Jupyter Console, Jupyter Notebook and/or Lab. A good IDE will help immensely to shorten your learning curve.

Have fun. and PS … don't limit yourself to learning just one language

Re: What is the best way to study python?

RPGIS — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:55:21 GMT

Thanks Dan,

I don't plan on sticking to just one language. I know some other languages that , not sure if they are script or code languages, are still useful. The other type of languages that I also use is html/css. I do want to learn java/javascript because I would like to be able to create custom tools for the arcgis online environment. I believe I can still accomplish that with python, but it still wouldn't hurt to simply know other languages, especially when it comes to security.

I have yet to try jupyter notebook, and I don't know if the script process is similar or if it varies a good bit. I have heard of pycharm but never actually used it, and I don't know if it behaves the same way as the python gui for arc. I am slowly getting comfortable enough that I can create simple tools here and there, but I plan on challenging myself more by creating more complex scripts and tools.

Also, when it comes to scripting (either for arcigs ,pro, or any other applications) is it best to keep the scripts short, simple, and variable, or is it better to create large somewhat and complex scripts the may only provide a single use or slightly variable use. That is the other thing that I am not quite sure about is I thought that the more variable a tool is, the easier it is to utilize it for other various purposes.

but there is so much more to learn, and I am always open for trying something new (especially challenging things) because that broadens horizons more. I greatly appreciate the feedback and I will keep learning and practicing while incorporating new things along the way.

-Robert