idea Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy in Python Ideas

Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

DanPatterson — Thu, 14 Jul 2022 01:08:56 GMT

In short, it may be nice to provide a simple package install for the bulk, but it makes it an unnecessary chore for others to produce simple alternate environments.

arcpy 3.0 py39_arcgispro_36030 ------------------------------ file name : arcpy-3.0-py39_arcgispro_36030.tar.bz2 name : arcpy version : 3.0 build : py39_arcgispro_36030 build number: 36030 size : 5.4 MB subdir : win-64 url : https://conda.anaconda.org/esri/win-64/arcpy-3.0-py39_arcgispro_36030.tar.bz2 md5 : 539ed0c88f7227faf15e91f34f0bd21c timestamp : 2022-05-27 19:30:14 UTC dependencies: - arcgis 2.0.1.* - arcgispro 3.0.* - asn1crypto - azure-storage-blob .... huge snip

There is no reason for it related to arcpy specifically, in fact it is the other way around (or shapely).

Better still "arcgisscripting" would be nice to package/install on its own.

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy - Status changed to: In Product Plan

ShaunWalbridge — Thu, 21 Jul 2022 19:15:39 GMT

There will be some user education required to use a package of this type, as some GP tools will fail to execute without the full set of dependencies. That said, agree this is worthwhile doing for advanced users using ArcPy outside the default environment.

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

DanPatterson — Thu, 21 Jul 2022 23:51:25 GMT

Great Shaun...

If you need some testers, let me know 😉

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy - Status changed to: Implemented

AmeliaBradshaw — Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:22:57 GMT

This Idea has been implemented in ArcGIS Pro 3.1. Please see the What's New documentation for more new features in Pro 3.1.

The Ideas in ArcGIS Pro 3.1 blog will be wrapped up soon, highlighting all Ideas implemented in this release, including this one. Once complete, I will add the link to this comment.

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

DanPatterson — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:54:04 GMT

It seems to have slipped back in for 3.1

"...\envs\arcgispro-py3\conda-meta\arcpy-3.1-py39_arcgispro_41759.json" { "arch": "x86_64", "build": "py39_arcgispro_41759", "build_number": 41759, "channel": "https://conda.anaconda.org/esri/win-64", "constrains": [], "depends": [ "appdirs", "arcgis 2.1.0.*", "arcpy-base 3.1 py39_41759",

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

ShaunWalbridge — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 01:40:57 GMT

Because the arcpy package label already mapped to the full Python distribution we provide by default, we introduced the new arcpy-base package which includes only the minimal dependencies for Geoprocessing scripts. Separately, arcpy includes the full distribution (including the Python API), and pro_notebook_integration includes the specific packages needed for Notebooks inside of Pro.

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

DanPatterson — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 02:16:12 GMT

Shaun, tried it but ....matplotlib, pillow, ...scipy were needed.

currently having good luck with a pip install of what I needed, then ags

import arcgisscripting as ags dir(ags) ['ClearCredentials', 'ExecuteAbort', 'ExecuteError', 'ExecuteWarning', 'Extent', ...snip... locals().keys() dict_keys(['__name__', '__doc__', '... 'get_ipython', ... 'np', ... 'math', 'numpy', 'ags',... 'scipy',...'matplotlib'...)

no problems so far

Re: Remove arcgis as a dependency from arcpy

ShaunWalbridge — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 02:19:54 GMT

OK, yes the goal with arcpy-base is to strip out all non-critical packages, and move those which are normally included but not critical into arcpy. You can evaluate the versions we include by looking at the arcpy file information for the version you're installing, e.g. we ship scipy >=1.5.2 for Pro 3.1. I think including only the minimal set of things is the right way to break this up since different users will need different sets of things beyond the arcpy-base set, and if they need 1:1 mapping with Pro, they can use the full ArcPy package.