topic Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC in Oriented Imagery Classic

Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Mon, 05 Oct 2020 19:12:58 GMT

I have accurate Camera Heading,Roll,Pitch,X,Y,Z. It appears OIC does not use elevation data but rather Height above Ground. I am guessing it projects the little red x that you click onto the screen on the DEM and then translates that to the image. In my cause its really far off. See screenshot. Is this the case or do you suppose I am missing something else? I am also wondering how to get it to show the other image locations projected onto the image. Can they navigate from one image to the next by clicking on it IN the image instead of on the map?

Thanks in advance!

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 16:57:17 GMT

Hi,

Yes, you can navigate from one image to another by clicking on image locations in the image.

If the image locations fall within the extent of the current coverage, then you will see those location overlayed on top of image.

To turn on the image locations in the image, go to the overlay tab and turn on the Camera locations. You will see orange and green dots. Orange means that the image is pointing in the different direction as compared to current image. Green means that the image heading is similar to the current image.

Note - the overlay button will only show up in the viewer if there are image locations for the current image.

See the screenshots below-

Data - Paintsville (OIC provided by you)

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:31:53 GMT

Hmm, I wonder if I might have calculated pitch incorrectly. In the example I gave to you, I had everything set to 90 because I was just testing. I have a new one that I have posted that has the heading and roll information in it as well. I had to calculate the pitch because our pitch is measured from 0 being horizontal. Question: If my cameras are pointed downward should might pitch be less than 90 or greater than 90?

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:36:14 GMT

Pitch = 90 -> camera pointing towards the horizon

Pitch = 0 -> camera looking down (nadir)

Pitch = 180 -> camera looking up (sky)

So if cameras are pointed downward, then pitch is less than 90

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:39:37 GMT

Thank you for the quick response. Looks like I have them calc'd correctly. Any other idea's which would make the data so far off of my images?

Here is my new map. I built this with the Web Application Builder.

ArcGIS Web Application

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 18:06:52 GMT

Hi,

I can confirm that the OIC is not using the elevation data. The reason for this is because the DTM is not defined properly in the OIC.

Can you update the "DEMPrefix" Parameter in the OIC to this

"DEMPrefix":"E|https://elevation3d.arcgis.com/arcgis/rest/services/WorldElevation3D/Terrain3D/ImageServer|13"

You can update by using the Properties tool.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 21:38:38 GMT

Thank you so much for sticking this out with me. I have tried both

"E|https://elevation3d.arcgis.com/arcgis/rest/services/WorldElevation3D/Terrain3D/ImageServer|13"

and

"https://elevation3d.arcgis.com/arcgis/rest/services/WorldElevation3D/Terrain3D/ImageServer"

If I keep the little E part and the 13 at the end, the site seems to work but the little red x doesnt show up and all and neither do the nearby image overlays.

If I disregard the begining E| and ending |13 in the path the images will not even load. I think you are on to something tho. I am getting excited this will work soon!!

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 23:09:13 GMT

Hi,

Please use this - E|https://elevation3d.arcgis.com/arcgis/rest/services/WorldElevation3D/Terrain3D/ImageServer|13

It is correct value to define DEM.

I think it's working fine. See below

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 00:16:23 GMT

ok, its loading images now but the overlay is still not working and i just realized that its picking strange images to view where i pick. We drove up and down all the roads and several parking lots. It seems to be picking the parking lot pictures which are further away than the images collected along the roadway. I am attaching two screenshots. The first one is from the web site and you can see it sporatically plotting image locations and them NOT showing up in the image viewer. Then the second shot is in ArcGIS Pro showing the actual image locations. I now have the DEM specified with the E at the beginning and the 13 at the end and its showing images now. See screenshots below.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 00:21:12 GMT

Interesting obseveration, if I click on one of the storm structures it picks the closest image. If I click just on the map, it doesnt.. Still think its a DTM issue.. Maybe...

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

SoukainaMENJEL — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 13:55:11 GMT

I want to ask about DepthImg in Oriented Viewer Imagery, how can i define it? i have bubble images, with XY and ImageDirection, those informations cannot be sufficient to define DepthImg using another calculate? Or should have DepthImg information from the source? i put the accuracy values, it shows me that the widget of measurement is added, location, distance, area, elevation. distance and area cannot be clicked, so i will configure the depthImg, i i don't know how, can you tell me more and give me an example what i would put on the field and the attribute table.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 15:30:16 GMT

oops, wrong thread. I think you had one posted for this already...

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

SoukainaMENJEL — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 15:44:14 GMT

Do you know anything about this?

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 15:55:47 GMT

Unfortunately I do not, Hopefully someone can answer your thread soon.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 17:08:40 GMT

Hi,

Image locations are not coming up in the image because the CamPitch value of the current image is less than 80.

Currently, camera locations will only show up if the CamPitch value for an image is between 80 to 95.

This issue will be fixed in the next release.

Thank You.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 17:11:32 GMT

Hi,

This is not a DTM issue.

There is an issue with the method we used to compute the best image for street-side images. It is a known issue. This will be updated in the next release and will resolve your issue.

Thank you.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

SoukainaMENJEL — Fri, 09 Oct 2020 08:59:31 GMT

Will it be in October?

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Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Fri, 09 Oct 2020 18:52:44 GMT

No. We just had a release in September.

Thank you.

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

JeraldAllen — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:40:49 GMT

What sort of release schedule do you anticipate? We are pretty impressed with this tool but we need those couple of bugs to be addressed before we can continue any further. Trying to weigh out options as an approach to provide a solution to our clients.

Thank you again for all your help!

Re: Custom DTM to use with OIC

Anonymous User — Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:01:35 GMT

Hi,

We usually follow 3 months release schedule. Bugs will be fixed in next release.

Thank you.