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Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

srikanth — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:31:28 GMT

Hi,

We are currently working in a project to build a Schematic diagram using the XML data. I would like to understand the feasibility in generating the enclosed Schematic diagrams using the ESRI XML builder or by using the Schematics SOE provided in the 10.1 version.

Can anyhow help us in understadning the approach in meeting this kind of requirement.

Regards,
Srikanth.G

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RickAnderson — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:36:00 GMT

Hi Srikanth,

First of all, the xml capabilities and SOE capabilities are completely different concepts. There is desktop capability and there is server capability (SOE). In either case, there is an XML Builder that can be used to pass the desired data to schematics. The main reason to use an XML Builder would be that the data is not in a standard geometric network or network dataset, which those cases have specific Builders to deal with those networks. After you get the data to schematics (xml builder, standard builder, network dataset builder or Custom Query), then you have to deal with the physical layout (layout algorithm) on the screen. The core product only has generic layout algorithms and tools that would allow you to do this manually. If you want it automated, then you will also need to create a custom layout algorithm that does exactly what you need. Start on the desktop and get it working, then transition the builder and layout algo to the server.

So it is possible, but will likely require at least a custom layout.

I would suggest you spend some time watching the videos available on the resource center which explain the basics of schematics and go through the various builders.

Once you have a better handle on that, then look at the sample for creating a custom layout algorithm. There is also a sample for an xml builder. After all that, see what questions you still have.

Thanks,

Rick

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

srikanth — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 04:53:06 GMT

Hi Rick,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Let me explain, what I am actually looking. May be I am failed to post the query properly. We have created schematics of a non geometric data using the XML builder with Smart tree layout and published in the browser using the ArcGIS Server. Now I would like to generate schematics for ISP details (port level) of the non geometric data, through XML builder only.

As you explained, will it be possible through the XML builder, if I customize the algorithm to generate these kinds of diagrams. I understand that, XML builder, supports only these 4 elements (Node Feature, Link Feature, NodeonLink/Sublink).How can I represent a polygon feature (box with all the ports inside) with these elements. If not, Will it be possible to meet this requirement using SOE objects and how.

Please let me know for any additional information required.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Srikanth.G

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RickAnderson — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:46:31 GMT

Hi Srikanth,

Schematics supports the 'container' concept. When you create the schematic feature class in configuration, set it as a Point type but with polyline geometry. So you have a node feature with an "ExternalUniqueID" that is going to end up drawing as a polyline geometry. Now any feature that goes inside it (node or link etc...), you just set its xml for "RelatedContainerID" = to the "ExternalUniqueID" of that node 'container' feature. The attached example of a telco splice point internal shows this concept. The Buffer Tubes are containers around the actual fiber nodes. You can also search the schematic help system for 'container' to find out more information.

Rick

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

srikanth — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:52:45 GMT

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your support.

I hope this will definitely help me in addressing this requirement.

Regards,
Srikanth.G

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RaduD — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:28:29 GMT

Hi Rick,

Can you help me with a demo software or guidance to see a telco splice point like in the picture that you posted?

Thanks.

Radu.

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RickAnderson — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:45:26 GMT

That is a custom algorithm that is only exposed to customers via our partners (Telcordia (Eriksson) and Telvent (Schneider)) at the moment. We are just now deciding if this will be something we put into the core or provide on the side that will work with our Esri Telco data model. If you have an xml file (following our xsd) that describes one of your splice points, I might be able to run it through the algorithm and show you the results.

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RaduD — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:26:42 GMT

That is a custom algorithm that is only exposed to customers via our partners (Telcordia (Eriksson) and Telvent (Schneider)) at the moment. We are just now deciding if this will be something we put into the core or provide on the side that will work with our Esri Telco data model. If you have an xml file (following our xsd) that describes one of your splice points, I might be able to run it through the algorithm and show you the results.

Thank you Rick,

I don't have the file, i am looking for a solution to see a splice diagram in Arcgis.I know your partner's software, but are too expensive for the company i work for, so i'm trying to find a alternative. Do you know if is a workaround in the Telecom Template to use for seeing a splice diagram?

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RickAnderson — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:08:28 GMT

There isn't a work-around in the core template. However...we are looking at putting this splice point into the template sometime in the near future, but I just can't guarantee when or if it will happen at all. It will also end up being based off the xml builder. So there will be an external component that will understand how to get the 'internal' data and send it to schematics where the algorithm will be applied.

Re: Schematic Diagram Generation Using XML Builder

RaduD — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:26:23 GMT

Thank you for your response.

Best regards,
Radu.