topic compatibilidade (Data created in QGIS does not align in ArcMap) in Mapping Questions https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337760#M3663 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Criei um percurso no QGis usando OpenLayer plugin Google Streets, e agora que tenho que trabalhar no ArcGis não consigo fazer com que os pontos caiam nos lugares certos...</P><P>Estou usando ArcBrutile google roads no ArcGis...</P><P></P><P>Subject was edited by: Timothy Hales</P></BODY></HTML> Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:29:21 GMT MIGUELPIPA 2015-09-08T14:29:21Z compatibilidade (Data created in QGIS does not align in ArcMap) https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337760#M3663 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Criei um percurso no QGis usando OpenLayer plugin Google Streets, e agora que tenho que trabalhar no ArcGis não consigo fazer com que os pontos caiam nos lugares certos...</P><P>Estou usando ArcBrutile google roads no ArcGis...</P><P></P><P>Subject was edited by: Timothy Hales</P></BODY></HTML> Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:29:21 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337760#M3663 MIGUELPIPA 2015-09-08T14:29:21Z Re: compatibilidade https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337761#M3664 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P><STRONG>Google Translation:</STRONG> <SPAN lang="en"><SPAN class="hps">I created a</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">route</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">in</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">QGIS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">using</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">OpenLayer</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Google</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Streets</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">plugin,</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">and now</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">I have to work</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">in</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">ArcGIS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">can not</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">make</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">the points</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">fall</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">in the right places</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">...</SPAN><BR /><BR /> <SPAN class="hps">I'm using</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">google</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">ArcBrutile</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">roads</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">in</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">ArcGIS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">...</SPAN></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><P>What coordinate system did you create the streets layer in QGIS? What coordinate system is your map in ArcGIS?</P></BODY></HTML> Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:36:34 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337761#M3664 TimothyHales 2015-09-08T14:36:34Z Re: compatibilidade https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337762#M3665 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>I'm using camacupa 33S... is the system we use in Angola, Africa...</P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:06:49 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337762#M3665 MIGUELPIPA 2015-09-10T10:06:49Z Re: compatibilidade https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337763#M3666 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Camacupa 33S is UTM, so there should not be a transformation issue. Could you start a new ArcMap sessions, add your points layer first, and then add the other reference data?</P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:36:43 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337763#M3666 TimothyHales 2015-09-10T11:36:43Z Re: compatibilidade (Data created in QGIS does not align in ArcMap) https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337764#M3667 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>It will indeed be a transformation issue. The coordinate system of the line (UTM 33S) has nothing to do with the underlying GCS source of the data.</P><P>I am surprised that QGis makes such a good fit! But I do suspect that there is something about the original data (how was this line acquired?), and the coordinate system of the ArcMap data frame.</P><P>Was the correct transformation selected here?</P><P></P><P>Camacupa is a tricky one. I researched this many moons ago. All the available transformations between Camacupa &amp; WGS84 have been calculated by the oil industry and are for specific offshore oil concessions. Back then there were no valid transformations for onshore Angola.</P><P>I would like to hear from Miguel if this situation has now been rectified.</P><P></P><P>Google translate version:</P><P><SPAN class="hps">Na verdade, será</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">uma questão de</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">transformação.</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">O sistema de coordenadas</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps atn">da linha (</SPAN>UTM <SPAN class="hps">33S</SPAN>) não tem nada <SPAN class="hps">a ver com</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">a fonte</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">subjacente</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">GCS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">dos dados.</SPAN></P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">Estou surpreso que</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">qgis</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">faz</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">um bom ajuste</SPAN>, tais! <SPAN class="hps">Mas eu</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">suspeito que</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">há algo sobre</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">os</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps atn">dados originais (</SPAN>como <SPAN class="hps">foi</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">esta linha</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">adquirido?</SPAN>), Eo sistema <SPAN class="hps">do</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">quadro de dados</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">do ArcMap</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">coordenadas.</SPAN></P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">Foi</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">a transformação</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">correta selecionada</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">aqui?</SPAN></P><P></P><P></P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">Camacupa</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">é</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">um assunto delicado</SPAN>. <SPAN class="hps">Eu pesquisei</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">isso muitas</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">luas atrás</SPAN>. <SPAN class="hps">Todas</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">as transformações</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">disponíveis entre</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Camacupa</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">&amp;</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">WGS84</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">foram calculados</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">pela indústria do petróleo</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">e são para</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">concessões específicas</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">de petróleo offshore.</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Naquela época</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">não havia</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">transformações</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">válidos para</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">onshore</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Angola.</SPAN></P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">Eu gostaria</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">de ouvir de</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Miguel</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">se esta situação</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">foi agora</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">corrigida.</SPAN></P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:48:21 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337764#M3667 NeilAyres 2015-09-10T11:48:21Z Re: compatibilidade (Data created in QGIS does not align in ArcMap) https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337765#M3668 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P><A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/101665">Neilson Ayers</A>​ Thanks for the added local knowledge. I just made an assumption that all of the data (reference data and collected data) was using Camacupa 33S. I see now how this could be a transformation issue.</P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:59:13 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337765#M3668 TimothyHales 2015-09-10T11:59:13Z Re: compatibilidade (Data created in QGIS does not align in ArcMap) https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337766#M3669 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>QGIS uses GDAL and PROJ.4 for coordinate systems. Miguel, check the Camacupa UTM 33S definition in QGIS and look for the PROJ.4 string. It will look something like this:</P><P>+proj=tm +lon_0=15.0 +lat_0=0.0 ...</P><P></P><P>See if there is a +towgs84 parameter and post those values here. With those values, we can look up an equivalent transformation for ArcMap, or tell you how to define a custom geographic/datum transformation.</P><P></P><P>Melita</P><P></P><P>Google translate:</P><P><SPAN class="hps">QGIS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">usa</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">GDAL</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">e</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">PROJ.4</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">para</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">sistemas de coordenadas.</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Miguel</SPAN>, verifique a <SPAN class="hps">definição</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Camacupa</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">UTM</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">33S</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">no</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">QGIS</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">e</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">procurar a cadeia</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">PROJ.4</SPAN>. <SPAN class="hps">Ele</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">será parecido com</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">este</SPAN>:</P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">+</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">proj</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">=</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">tm</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">+</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">lon_0</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">= 15,0</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">+</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">lat_0</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">=</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">0.0 ...</SPAN></P><P></P><P><SPAN class="hps">Veja se</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">há um</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">parâmetro</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">+</SPAN><SPAN class="hps">towgs84</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">e postar</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">esses valores</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">aqui.</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">Com</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">esses valores</SPAN>, nós podemos <SPAN class="hps">olhar para</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">uma transformação</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">equivalente para</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">ArcMap</SPAN>, <SPAN class="hps">ou dizer-lhe</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">como definir</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">uma transformação</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">geográfica</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">/</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">datum</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps">personalizado.</SPAN></P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:09:31 GMT https://community.esri.com/t5/mapping-questions/compatibilidade-data-created-in-qgis-does-not/m-p/337766#M3669 MelitaKennedy 2015-09-10T20:09:31Z