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Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:49:10 GMT

Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

I had created many shapefiles with the extension "-text" in the year 2014.

But now when I am trying to create such a file (i.e. with -Text extension I am not able to do so inspite of trying many ways / methods. I am able to create a somewhat similar file with "-annotation" extension but not the type of files I had created in the year 2014 with the "_text" extension.

Image File of both type of Shapefiles i.e. 1. With "-text" extension and 2. With "_annotation" extension is attached.

I want to know the difference between these 2 types of Shapefile Extensions and how to create the file with "_text" extension which I had created in the year 2014.

Thanks & Regards,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:55:05 GMT

Rahul,

The difference between the who files name comes from the CAD files being converted. Was the CAD file a AutoCad DWG, DXF, or a Microstation DGN, or DXF. It all depends on the format you start with and the layers in the CAD file.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:19:12 GMT

Dear Robert Scheitlin, GISP,

It was a DXF file which I converted. But now I i tried many ways to get the Same DXF file converted to "_text" extension type shapefile but I am unable to do so.

I had also attached 2 attachments with my question - But I do not know why these attachments are not showing here.

So attaching them again.

1. One of the "_text" Extension shapefile I created in year 2014

2. "_annotation" Extension shapefile which I am able to create now.

i want to create shapefile in the format of "_text" extension now NOT Annotation.

How to create a "_text" Extension shapefile.

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Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

I had created many shapefiles with the extension "-text" in the year 2014.

Image File of both type of Shapefiles i.e. 1. With "-text" extension and 2. With "_annotation" extension is attached.

I want to know the difference between these 2 types of Shapefile Extensions and how to create the file with "_text" extension which I had created in the year 2014.

Thanks & Regards,

Rahul.

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Robert Scheitlin, GISP (to Rahul Kulkarni) 5 hours ago

Rahul,

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hen I am trying to create such a file (i.e. with -Text extension I am not able to do so inspite of trying many ways / methods. I am able to create a somewhat similar file with "-annotation" extension but not the type of files I had created in the year 2014 with the "_text" extension.

Image File of both type of Shapefiles i.e. 1. With "-text" extension and 2. With "_annotation" extension is attached.

I want to know the difference between these 2 types of Shapefile Extensions and how to create the file with "_text" extension which I had created in the year 2014.

Thanks & Regards,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:24:36 GMT

Rahul,

What version of ArcMap were you using in 2014. The ArcGIS version of the conversion tool has to do with not being able to convert it in same exact manner your were back then. There is no option to create a _text vs _annotation.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:41:17 GMT

Dear Robert Scheitlin, GISP,

I do not remember the exact version, but yes, it was an older version.

So do you mean to say that the newer version of ArcCatalog & ArcMap do not support or give the option to convert it to "_text" format. Have they changed the "_text" format to "_annotation format"? I mean has the word "text" been replaced by the word "annotation". If yes then OK & if not what is the difference between the two "_text" extension shape file and "_annotation" extension shapefile? And if is different how to create a "_text" extension shapefile - Like the one I have attached below the 1st attachment?

1st Attachment: Text - unable To Make Now - I Want To Create - How to Create Issue: (If it is different from the Annotation Extension File.

2nd Attachment: Annotation - I can create now - No issues

Thanks & Regards,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:45:37 GMT

Rahul,

Can you not just look at the created shapefiles (_text and _annotation) and compare then? As far as I know they should be the same (just named differently in the different versions of ArcGIS).

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:17:19 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

Actually in 2014 when I used to convert the selected DXF File to "Point" Shapefile in ArcGIS it gave me the result as shown in the 1st Attachment. But now when I use the Same File and the same procedure to create a Point Shapefile the resulting shapefile is very different since it does not show i.e. include the Text Data which is vital for me in the Shapefile. I want the generated Point Shapefile to include both the Points Geometry as well as the Associated Text Data. This used to happen Perfectly in the generated "_Text" type Point shapefile in the year 2014. Both the Point Geometry as well as the Associated Text used to appear Perfectly in the generated "_text" type Point Shapefile in the year 2014. But now the generated Point Shapefile (Image Attached) Omits the Associated Text Data Completely. So to overcome this problem I tried using Annotation type Shapefile instead of Point Type Shapefile. This Annotation type Shapefile does include the Associated Text Data but I think it omits the Points Geometry Data. Thus in the year 2014 the Point Shapefile included both Points as well as Text Data but I am unable to generate this type of file with the "_text" extension now.

Thanks & Regards,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:29:25 GMT

Rahul,

Are you sure that the DXF you are trying to convert now has text associated with the points?

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:30:32 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

OK Thanks - I will compare them in detail now.

Actually its 1 am (Very Late Night) now in my country i.e. India & my eyes are slightly paining - So I will have a detailed comparative look in the morning and reply back tomorrow to you Sir.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:44:51 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

Its not linked with the Points directly as such i.e. not as a Block - Its a drawing / dxf file with more than a 1500 points and adjoining every point there is a Text Data - So the Drawing / DXF file has equal number of say 1500 Points and Extremely Nearby 1500 Text Data. When we click on the Point the Text Does Not get selected and when we click on the Text the Point Does Not Selected Automatically but Each Text Data is Extremely Near Each Point and contains Associated Text Data particularly for that Point.

In fact I want to combine the Point and the Text Data - I mean when I click on the Point the Extremely Nearby Text Data should get Selected Automatically - But this question / issue we will discuss after the issue of the Difference between the 2 types of Shapefiles i.e. Text (Year 2014) & Annotation (Year 2016) is solved / cleared.

I do have a LISP Program which Links Text to Adjoining Circles but Not For Points.

Actually its 1:25 am (Very Late Night) now in my country i.e. India & my eyes are slightly paining - So I will have a detailed comparative look in the morning and reply back tomorrow to you Sir.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:47:31 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

OK Thanks - I will compare them in detail now.

Actually its 1 am (Very Late Night) now in my country i.e. India & my eyes are slightly paining - So I will have a detailed comparative look in the morning and reply back tomorrow to you Sir.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

I do have a LISP Program which Links Text to Adjoining Circles but Not For Points.

Actually its 1:25 am (Very Late Night) now in my country i.e. India & my eyes are slightly paining - So I will have a detailed comparative look in the morning and reply back tomorrow to you Sir.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:34:27 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

12 Attachments are Embedded Below:

I analysed All The Three Shapefiles - a) YEAR 2014 POINT OUTPUT HAVING TEXT DATA AUTOMATICALLY b) CURRENT YEAR 2016 POINT OUTPUT & c) CURRENT 2016 ANNOTATION OUTPUT:

My Analysis Results Are As Follows:

1. As I had written before "Actually in 2014 when I used to convert the selected DXF File to "Point" Shapefile in ArcGIS it gave me the result as shown in the 1st Attachment. But now when I use the Same File and the same procedure to create a Point Shapefile the resulting shapefile is very different since it does not show i.e. include the Text Data which is vital for me in the Shapefile. I want the generated Point Shapefile to include both the Points Geometry as well as the Associated Text Data. This used to happen Perfectly in the generated "_Text" type Point shapefile in the year 2014. Both the Point Geometry as well as the Associated Text used to appear Perfectly in the generated "_text" type Point Shapefile in the year 2014. But now the generated Point Shapefile (Image Attached) Omits the Associated Text Data Completely. So to overcome this problem I tried using Annotation type Shapefile instead of Point Type Shapefile. This Annotation type Shapefile does include the Associated Text Data but I think it omits the Points Geometry Data. Thus in the year 2014 the Point Shapefile included both Points as well as Text Data but I am unable to generate this type of file with the "_text" extension now."

2. We can see the difference in Outputs of the 2014 and 2016 files in the Attachments.

3. Also the 2014 Point Shapefile consists of 2 Parts (Please View Catalog Tree Attachments Number 6 & 7) whereas the New 2016 Point and Annotation Shapefile consists of only 1 Part each (Please View Catalog Tree Attachments Number 6 & 7). This is VERY IMPORTANT - THE 2014 OLD POINT SHAPEFILE USED TO BE OF 2 PARTS AS WE CAN SEE IN THE ARCMAP CATALOG TREE (ATTACHMENTS NUMBER 6 & 7) WHEREAS THE NEW 2016 POINT AND ANNOTATION SHAPEFILES CONSIST OF ONLY ONE PART HAVING THE POINT AND ANNOTATION / TEXT DATA RESPECTIVELY AND NOT COMBINED IN 2 PARTS LIKE THE 2014 POINT SHAPEFILE HAVING THE "_TEXT" EXTENSION & CONSISTING OF BOTH POINT AND TEXT / ANNOTATION DATA IN A SINGLE SHAPEFILE.

4.Thus the 2014 Point Shapefile used to automatically combine Point and Annotation Data in One Shapefile but the new 2016 Point Shapefile Omits the Text/ Annotation Data in the Point Shapefile and therefore we have to create a Separate Annotation Shapefile havong the Text Data.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:40:12 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

12 Attachments are Embedded Below:

I analysed All The Three Shapefiles - a) YEAR 2014 POINT OUTPUT HAVING TEXT DATA AUTOMATICALLY b) CURRENT YEAR 2016 POINT OUTPUT & c) CURRENT 2016 ANNOTATION OUTPUT:

My Analysis Results Are As Follows:

2. We can see the difference in Outputs of the 2014 and 2016 files in the Attachments.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:52:13 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

The List of Attached Images was slightly cut i.e. not completely visible so attaching it again after modification.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:35:22 GMT

Rahul,

You are getting so wrapped up in what use to be that you are missing that the new way that ArcGIS handles it you are still getting the same information. In 2014 when you converted the DXF you automatically got the TEXT DATA converted as XYZ_Text.shp. In the newer version that same data is being converted but it is called XYZ_Annotation.shp. Both files are a point geometry shapefile with a attribute in the data that has the Text Data in a field called "Text" and or "TextMemo"

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 17:53:45 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

OK Thanks & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RahulKulkarni — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 01:39:35 GMT

DearRobert Scheitlin, GISP,

No the DXF does not have the text associated with the Points.

In fact I want to combine the Point and the Text Data - I mean when I click on the Point the Extremely Nearby Text Data should get Selected Automatically.

I do have a LISP Program which Links Text to Adjoining Circles but Not For Points.

I want to know how to do that i.e Associate The Text With Points.

Thanks For Your Great Help & With The Very Best Regards To You Sir,

Yours Sincerely,

Rahul.

Re: Difference between Shapefile with _text extension and with _annotation extension & and how to create the file with "_text" extension

RobertScheitlin__GISP — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 01:55:29 GMT

Rahul,

That is a pretty different topic from your original one. See this help topic for spatial join:

http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/tools/analysis-toolbox/spatial-join.htm