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Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

MartyAnderson — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:56:34 GMT

I'm trying to create a simple model that performs a spatial join of a dem (points, target features) to catch basins (points, join features). I'm doing a One-to-One join with the Closest option. I can perform the join with no issues using the Spatial Join tool in the toolbox, but anytime I try to do this within a model in model builder, ArcMap crashes. I'm using ArcGIS 10 and it doesn't appear to be a ram issue.

I've searched the forums for similar problems and haven't found anything....

Any thoughts or remarks would be appreciated.

Marty Anderson

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

ShitijMehta — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:42:42 GMT

Do you have any 10 service pack installed?

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

MartyAnderson — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:44:33 GMT

I have SP2 installed yes

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:23:07 GMT

Hi Marty,

Could you share a set of dummy data? I cannot repro with my own point to point data. Thanks.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

SanderFox — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:20:19 GMT

Did this issue get resolved? I'm having similar problems with running functions from within the Model Builder. This computer has SP1 installed and the system admin won't be installing an update anytime soon 😞 The odd thing is, it used to work just fine. Is it a memory issue or something? Thanks for the help!

Sander

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:08:11 GMT

Could you please be little more specific on your data (size, how many features in target and join featur classes) and Spatial Join parameters? Are you modifying the field map or keeping the default? Is it JOIN_ONE_TO_ONE or JOIN_ONE_TO_MANY? Keep_all? As I cannot repro it locally I'm trying to mimic your scenario. Best would be if you could share your data.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

SanderFox — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:10:53 GMT

I was not doing a Spatial Join, but was using other functions in the Model Building. However, I managed to fix the problem. It turned out to be an extent problem. After reprojecting my DEM, I had not yet updated my model properties to account for the changes. That's what caused the crashes for me. Maybe Marty had the same problem.

All the best,
Sander

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

PeterHevenor — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:48:50 GMT

I am having the same issue, when trying to use the Match Option CLOSEST in model builder arcmap crashes. On its own Spatial join preforms as expected. any help would be appreciated.

JOIN_ONE_TO_ONE
Keep All target Features: True

I have sp3 installed.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:36:49 GMT

@Marty:
With 10 sp3 I still cannot repro it on my machine (XP).

Little more info will be helpful:
Feature geometry of target and number of features
Feature geometry of join and number of features
Your operating system and RAM

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

BrianBatten — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:24:48 GMT

I am having the same issue, when trying to use the Match Option CLOSEST in model builder arcmap crashes. On its own Spatial join preforms as expected. any help would be appreciated.

JOIN_ONE_TO_ONE
Keep All target Features: True

I have sp3 installed.

Did you ever solve the issue? I'm having same problem w/ closest spatial join in Model Builder 10, SP3.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:48:52 GMT

It may happen if you are using fairly large datasets as inputs. I have tried with various datasets and couldn't repro the crash on my XP machine (10 sp3). Please refere to my previous posts and provide more details - I can help if I can repro the issue on my machine. Thanks.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

PeterHevenor — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:22:20 GMT

Unfortunately I was not able to get the One to One Closest to work within a model. I was using a fairly large data set, 8k features.

I was using it in an attempt to thin features to eliminate overprint. It's a bit of a mouthful but, the model created polygon buffers for the points, ran an intersect to find areas of overprint, dissolved the polys so there was one per overprint, converted those polys to points and tried to select at a one to one relationship to remove one of the offending points.
I was able to come up with a work around using feature ID's but since I was only concerned with the one to one relationship and not necessarily the closest it might not work for your case.
-Pete

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

PeterHevenor — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:36:24 GMT

Nobbir,
Here is some sample data and a model that crashes when using spatial join.
Windows 7.
SP 3

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

KarinHenrikson — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:12:11 GMT

Hi,
I am also having the same problem in model builder. I am trying to do spatial join with closest, between two point layers. The have 639 objects in them. Since they also are identical I can use "are identical" instead, which works fine. I have sp3 as well.
It would be great if there was a solution to this problem.
/Karin Henrikson

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:02:49 GMT

Here is some sample data and a model that crashes when using spatial join.
Windows 7. SP 3

Thanks a lot for providing me with the repro case (data and model). I could repro the crash on Win 7. It works fine on XP. We are investigating the iussue. I'll keep you updated.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

AndrewBrown — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:00:58 GMT

I created a model using the SpatialJoin tool with two Point shapefiles, 1-1, Keep All and Closest that would crash AGD 10 SP2 through SP4.
I exported it to a python script in the Arcpy directory and was able to run it without problems in the Python Shell.

The model also ran in AGD 10 SP1.

I'm running Win7 64bit

Andrew

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:20:19 GMT

Sorry to all for the unintended behavior of our tool 😞 The issue is being addressed and will be delivered through a general patch soon. The patch will address NIM079064, NIM068881 and NIM079126. The fixes will also go into 10 sp5.
The first two NIMs solve the crash issue and the third one solves the field mapping issue (join field values becoming NULL).

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

SanderSchaminee — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:39:04 GMT

Great work, thanks a lot!

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

Jasonvan_Warmerdam — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:08:37 GMT

I am having the same issue, when trying to use the Match Option CLOSEST in model builder arcmap crashes. On its own Spatial join preforms as expected. any help would be appreciated.

JOIN_ONE_TO_ONE
Keep All target Features: True

I have sp3 installed.

I was having a VERY difficult time incorporating the SpatialJoin_analysis function into my python scripting process. After much trial and error I found that you can not have the geoprocessing window open, and you need to uncheck Always run in foreground from your scripts properties under the General tab. This makes it hard to see what step the script is on, but is the only way to get the spatial join with the above parameters to work.

Re: Model Builder/ArcGIS crash using Spatial Join in a model

NobbirAhmed — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:42:53 GMT

@JasonWarmerdam:
Apolozy for your trouble. Please see my post above (#17).

Meanwhile, although you cannot see the messages while running, you can check those out when the tool finishes running in the Results window.