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    <title>topic Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge? in Geodatabase Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835594#M4438</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the comments, George.&amp;nbsp; Being pretty much an accidental DBA, this kind of insight is really helpful.&amp;nbsp; I have definitely been through many of the threads on this subject over the years, my goal was to get a more current take on the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a&amp;nbsp;contour/topography layer in my map service that exhibits the most obvious difference between&amp;nbsp;sdebinary and geography.&amp;nbsp; With over 800k rows of vertex-heavy features, with sdebinary it&amp;nbsp;has very acceptable performance and with geography it can be unusable depending on the extent.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 20:12:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RyanKelso</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-03-02T20:12:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835591#M4435</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a couple of new server machines that I'm setting up with ArcGIS Server and SQL Server for our enterprise geodatabases.&amp;nbsp; I'll be migrating our map services and geodatabases to the new servers but I have been doing a bit of testing first.&amp;nbsp; In testing the time it takes to render a few different layers from a dynamic map service, I'm surprised to find that my simple feature classes stored in SDEBINARY still have a performance advantage over using the GEOMETRY spatial type.&amp;nbsp; Same finding as when I went through all this years ago with older hardware and software.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In some circumstances the difference is still dramatic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The servers are running Windows Server 2012 R2, SQL Server 2014, and ArcGIS Server 10.5.1.&amp;nbsp; The geodatabase is 10.5.1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anybody coming to the same conclusions?&amp;nbsp; Or have you found the other spatial types to be better?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:24:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RyanKelso</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-01T23:24:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835592#M4436</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ryan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I have found the same that sdebinary is still the best.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:29:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835592#M4436</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobertScheitlin__GISP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-01T23:29:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835593#M4437</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/12447"&gt;Ryan Kelso&lt;/A&gt;‌ One thing to also consider is that many non-ArcGIS clients cannot read SDE BINARY and you have make sure that you update/maintain the indexes (spatial and non-spatial) via ArcGIS tools. If you use SQL Server Geometry then the SQL Server native tools could be used.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are some other potential issues, creating DB views on SDEBINARY is not possible via the GP tools.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-database-view.htm" title="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-database-view.htm"&gt;Create Database View—Help | ArcGIS Desktop&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/manage-data/databases/create-a-database-view-in-arcgis-desktop.htm" title="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/latest/manage-data/databases/create-a-database-view-in-arcgis-desktop.htm"&gt;Create a database view in ArcGIS Desktop—Help | ArcGIS Desktop&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you have specific issues, I would recommend opening a new Esri Support case and having the analyst take a look.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are also many threads on this subject on GeoNet with any different results.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 14:22:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835593#M4437</guid>
      <dc:creator>George_Thompson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-02T14:22:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835594#M4438</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the comments, George.&amp;nbsp; Being pretty much an accidental DBA, this kind of insight is really helpful.&amp;nbsp; I have definitely been through many of the threads on this subject over the years, my goal was to get a more current take on the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a&amp;nbsp;contour/topography layer in my map service that exhibits the most obvious difference between&amp;nbsp;sdebinary and geography.&amp;nbsp; With over 800k rows of vertex-heavy features, with sdebinary it&amp;nbsp;has very acceptable performance and with geography it can be unusable depending on the extent.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 20:12:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835594#M4438</guid>
      <dc:creator>RyanKelso</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-02T20:12:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835595#M4439</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;One thing you could try is to "cut" up your contours into "smaller segments? This may help with the draw time as each segment is smaller.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another option is to have a generalized copy of the contours for "display" and that would remove a lot of the vertices.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 20:36:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835595#M4439</guid>
      <dc:creator>George_Thompson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-02T20:36:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDEBINARY can still have the performance edge?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835596#M4440</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone encountered issues while editing&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;feature classes stored in SDEBINARY?&lt;BR /&gt;or any other pros and cons beside those listed above.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;ArcMap 10.3.1&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2018 13:36:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/sdebinary-can-still-have-the-performance-edge/m-p/835596#M4440</guid>
      <dc:creator>DjalilDahhaoui</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-05T13:36:41Z</dc:date>
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