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    <title>topic Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE in Geodatabase Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819191#M3631</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Problem: We want to upgrade our Oracle 11g + ArcSDE 10.1.0 to Oracle 12c + ArcSDE 10.4.1 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Steps tried so far:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Created a new virtual server&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Exported a full database backup from current Oracle 11g &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;installed Oracle 12c to new server&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;from an ArcGIS 10.4.1 client used python to create ST_GEOMETRY as described here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-spatial-type.htm"&gt;http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-spatial-type.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;imported full backup from oracle 12c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;from ArcGIS 10.4.1 client connected to new server using TNSNAMES.ora to define connection &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;connected to geodatabase using ArcCatalog unfortunately all spatial tables were identified by a default&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;icon and not the relevant spatial type icon. Right clicking on object would update icon but if loaded into ArcGIS it would put up a “New Query Layer” form and ask the user to identify a Unique Identified Field, then calculate extent. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Raster datatype not recognised at all, so installed ST_RASTER type and reloaded raster files from backup, unfortunately they are still not recognised as rasters. Direct copy/pasting the rasters from the original geodatabase to the new one using ArcGIS client works but this would need to be done by every user/schema that owns rasters to maintain ownership.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Noticed the new SDE.LAYERS table is empty except for the table directly loaded using copy/paste.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;Can anyone advise what we are doing wrong and what steps we are missing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="text-indent: -18.0pt; margin-left: 54.0pt;"&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="text-indent: -18.0pt; margin-left: 54.0pt;"&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:37:04 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>CarolineKeay</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-03-22T16:37:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819191#M3631</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Problem: We want to upgrade our Oracle 11g + ArcSDE 10.1.0 to Oracle 12c + ArcSDE 10.4.1 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Steps tried so far:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Created a new virtual server&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Exported a full database backup from current Oracle 11g &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;installed Oracle 12c to new server&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;from an ArcGIS 10.4.1 client used python to create ST_GEOMETRY as described here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-spatial-type.htm"&gt;http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/tools/data-management-toolbox/create-spatial-type.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;imported full backup from oracle 12c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;from ArcGIS 10.4.1 client connected to new server using TNSNAMES.ora to define connection &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;connected to geodatabase using ArcCatalog unfortunately all spatial tables were identified by a default&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;icon and not the relevant spatial type icon. Right clicking on object would update icon but if loaded into ArcGIS it would put up a “New Query Layer” form and ask the user to identify a Unique Identified Field, then calculate extent. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Raster datatype not recognised at all, so installed ST_RASTER type and reloaded raster files from backup, unfortunately they are still not recognised as rasters. Direct copy/pasting the rasters from the original geodatabase to the new one using ArcGIS client works but this would need to be done by every user/schema that owns rasters to maintain ownership.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #1f497d;"&gt;Noticed the new SDE.LAYERS table is empty except for the table directly loaded using copy/paste.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;Can anyone advise what we are doing wrong and what steps we are missing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-left: 18.0pt;"&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="text-indent: -18.0pt; margin-left: 54.0pt;"&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI style="text-indent: -18.0pt; margin-left: 54.0pt;"&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:37:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819191#M3631</guid>
      <dc:creator>CarolineKeay</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-03-22T16:37:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819192#M3632</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;You seem to have forgotten to back up and restore the SDE user (between steps 5 and 6), and to upgrade the 10.1 schema tables to 10.4.1 between steps 6 and 7).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819192#M3632</guid>
      <dc:creator>VinceAngelo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-03-22T16:47:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819193#M3633</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems like the Oracle Full Database Backup/Restore process may not have been done correctly. It is being treated as a Simple database.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Check if R-clicking on the connection file in ArcCatalog gives you the 'Enable Geodatabase' option)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also Step-4 is not necessary. Its for simple databases and not Enterprise Geodatabase.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive_macro_quote jive-quote jive_text_macro"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #4d4d4d; background-color: #fefefe;"&gt;The &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #4d4d4d; background-color: #fefefe;"&gt;Create Spatial Type&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #4d4d4d; background-color: #fefefe;"&gt; tool adds or upgrades the ST_Geometry SQL type, subtypes, and functions to an Oracle or PostgreSQL database. &lt;STRONG&gt;This allows you to use the ST_Geometry SQL type to store geometries in a database that does not contain a geodatabase.&lt;/STRONG&gt; This tool also can be used to upgrade an existing ST_Geometry installation in an Oracle or PostgreSQL database.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:51:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819193#M3633</guid>
      <dc:creator>Asrujit_SenGupta</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-03-22T16:51:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819194#M3634</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"&gt;The restore of the SDE user was done as part of the backup import. Then&amp;nbsp;the upgrade geodatabase was done from the ArcGIS client on the new DB (Sorry, I think we missed listing that in the steps…). That would have been done between 6 and 7.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"&gt;So you are saying if we are enterprise geodatabase (which we believe we are) we don’t need ST_Geometry? (or ST_Raster?). We don't have Oracle Spatial, does that make a difference? The original server had the ArcSDE&amp;nbsp; application installed on it, but I believe that is no longer necessary on ArcGIS 10.4.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"&gt;We believe the upgrade process has been corrupted somewhere so are going to try again from scratch. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"&gt;It would be good to get a set of documented steps to go from existing Oracle/GIS to new Oracle/GIS. I wonder if we need to upgrade the geodatabase on the existing DB first? Will that mess with our ArcGIS clients who are using older versions of ArcGIS?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: medium; font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:34:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819194#M3634</guid>
      <dc:creator>CarolineKeay</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-03-23T11:34:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Advice required upgrading Oracle with ArcSDE</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819195#M3635</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi all&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think that point &lt;EM&gt;9.&amp;nbsp;Noticed the new SDE.LAYERS table is empty except for the table directly loaded using copy/paste.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;and you will need to identify why that table (or maybe other tables in the SDE schema) has been created but not populated during the Oracle Import/Export process...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How are you migrating the data from one database to the new one? Imp/exp? Backup/restore? Do you have a log of the process? Any error or warning during this process?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jesús&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:53:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/geodatabase-questions/advice-required-upgrading-oracle-with-arcsde/m-p/819195#M3635</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-03-23T11:53:34Z</dc:date>
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