topic Re: Finished sketch too early in Data Management Questions

Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Wed, 16 May 2012 15:47:12 GMT

This has happened to me on a number of occasions, and is extremely inefficient. I was in the process of sketching a polygon, when instead of right click and hitting "finish part" I accidentally hit "finish sketch." When I undo, the entire sketch is deleted, I am not put back into sketching mode. How can I get back to sketching, or is there some tool similar to reshape feature, or edit verticies, that will allow me to modify my sketch? I realize I could make a new shapefile, and use geoprocessing, clip to achieve the same effect, but that seems like a lot of additional work to do something that must already be built in.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ThanielG — Wed, 16 May 2012 16:56:00 GMT

Happens to me all the time. Well, not all the time, but you get the point. Basically what I do is draw the rest of your sketch, select the two sketches, hit the Editor dropdown and choose Merge.

Re: Finished sketch too early

TerrySilveus — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:23:38 GMT

actually if you do "finish sketch" too early you can right click on the sketch and select replace sketch, then click "finish part" and then draw the rest.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ThanielG — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:30:15 GMT

actually if you do "finish sketch" too early you can right click on the sketch and select replace sketch, then click "finish part" and then draw the rest.

ah sweet, even better! never forget the always helpful right click!

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Wed, 16 May 2012 20:23:43 GMT

Thank you!

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:47:01 GMT

actually if you do "finish sketch" too early you can right click on the sketch and select replace sketch, then click "finish part" and then draw the rest.

There is no option called "replace sketch" when I right click on my object.

Nevermind I found it. You have to select the object, then go back to segment tool, then right click. It doesn't work if you select using the edit tool.

Re: Finished sketch too early

TerrySilveus — Fri, 18 May 2012 14:46:27 GMT

There is no option called "replace sketch" when I right click on my object.

Nevermind I found it. You have to select the object, then go back to segment tool, then right click. It doesn't work if you select using the edit tool.

OK, but if you just hit finish sketch and you realize it right away, you should be able to immediately right-click and replace sketch will be available.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 17:50:52 GMT

actually if you do "finish sketch" too early you can right click on the sketch and select replace sketch, then click "finish part" and then draw the rest.

I was wrong. This does not work. Still seeking a solution. If you right click, repalce sketch, then finish part, it will not allow you to draw empty area inside of objects, which is what I need to do, it will only allow you to add area to the existing object.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 17:52:40 GMT

OK, but if you just hit finish sketch and you realize it right away, you should be able to immediately right-click and replace sketch will be available.

Yes, you are right. However, it will not allow you to add void areas to preexisting objects.

Re: Finished sketch too early

TerrySilveus — Fri, 18 May 2012 18:49:21 GMT

I was wrong. This does not work. Still seeking a solution. If you right click, replace sketch, then finish part, it will not allow you to draw empty area inside of objects, which is what I need to do, it will only allow you to add area to the existing object.

Not sure how you are doing this. I just tested and it worked fine to draw an empty middle to create a doughnut.

These are the steps I did...

Drew rectangle
Right Clicked on Finish Sketch
...
Right Clicked on replace sketch
Right Clicked on Finish Part
Drew out doughnut hole in middle
Right Clicked on Finish Sketch

Worked perfectly:)

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 19:41:39 GMT

Not sure how you are doing this. I just tested and it worked fine to draw an empty middle to create a doughnut.

These are the steps I did...

Drew rectangle
Right Clicked on Finish Sketch
...
Right Clicked on replace sketch
Right Clicked on Finish Part
Drew out doughnut hole in middle
Right Clicked on Finish Sketch

Worked perfectly:)

I did the same exact thing and had different results. I made the screen caps earlier, but uploading 8 pics was taking too long so I gave up. Five minutes and Ill have them up here.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 19:44:16 GMT

These two screen caps show a correctly sketched area.

1. Outline of first object.
Then I drew in the hollow parts and hit F2 (finish sketch).
2. Correctly finished sketch.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 19:46:22 GMT

[ATTACH=CONFIG]14447[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]14448[/ATTACH]These next 2 screen caps illustrate my mistake.

3. I accidentally hit square and finish instead of finish part.
4. Result of mistake

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 19:50:40 GMT

5. Replace sketch
6. Finish Part
7. Draw in hollow areas and finish parts
8. Attempted correction result.

Where am I going wrong? Thanks so much.

Re: Finished sketch too early

TerrySilveus — Fri, 18 May 2012 19:57:17 GMT

Since you are drawing two "holes"...

Maybe try finish sketch after one hole, then replace sketch, finish part, and finish sketch again after the second hole is drawn... Not tested - just a thought.

Re: Finished sketch too early

TerrySilveus — Fri, 18 May 2012 20:05:05 GMT

I think I may know what's happening. The replace sketch is creating a second sketch using the "blueprints" of the first sketch. You need to go into the table and delete the original (after the second is finished). Try it again with the attribute table open and see if it is creating an additional row after you replace sketch. This may be a bug - it's adding an additional rather than replacing, but deleting the original should reveal the sketch you want with the holes which should be there - the original sketch is just obscuring the holes.

Re: Finished sketch too early

ChrisSevers — Fri, 18 May 2012 20:53:50 GMT

Thank you for your help. I will have to try your solution when I run into this issue again.

I realize it doesn't seem to be a substantial problem in my example, but you can imagine how much time I lose when I'm working on much larger areas (some of the objects I'm cutting these "holes" in are much larger and take hours to sketch).