GeoTIFFs, NAD 1983 (2011), Alaska State Plane 1, US survey feet; ArcMAP 10.0 vs 10.1

brucesimonson — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:03:43 GMT

Hi Gang,

I have recently received an extensive orthoimagery (tiled) dataset (GeoTIFFs), and related DEMs, and vectors (topo contours).

In ArcMAP 10.1, these co-register properly. However, in ArcMAP 10.0, they do not -- the GeoTIFFs end up somewhere in very remote space.

I have found a lot to read on this, and it appears to be a NAD 1983 (2011) issue.

However, for us, using Alaska State Plane 1, US survey feet, I haven't found any path to getting these to work in ArcMAP 10.0. What I'd like to have is some advice on

a) what projection files are needed,
b) what geometric transformation files are needed (if any),
c) where these appropriate files are placed in ArcMAP 10.0's directories, and
d) any additional steps needed to get these to work in ArcMAP 10.0.

The irony is that the prj files for Alaska State Plane 1, feet, for "NAD 1983" and "NAD 1983 (2011)" appear to be the same -- these may have different parameters in the contiguous states, but here, these files appear to be a "distinction without a difference".

I am wondering what the difference is, between ArcMAP 10.0 and ArcMAP 10.1, that makes these GeoTIFFs work properly in 10.1, and what I can do, to make 10.0 work properly with these GeoTIFFs.

Cheers,
-Bruce

PS: I'd upload files, but these are 325 meg GeoTIFFs.

However, perhaps looking at the EXIF tags for one of these GeoTIFF files will help; if so, here it is:

ExifTool Version Number         : 9.37
File Name                       : ba49.tif
Directory                       : .
File Size                       : 324 MB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2013:09:25 12:50:29-08:00
File Access Date/Time           : 2013:10:11 13:22:04-08:00
File Creation Date/Time         : 2013:10:11 13:21:44-08:00
File Permissions                : rw-rw-rw-
File Type                       : TIFF
MIME Type                       : image/tiff
Exif Byte Order                 : Little-endian (Intel, II)
Image Width                     : 9000
Image Height                    : 9000
Bits Per Sample                 : 8 8 8 8
Compression                     : Uncompressed
Photometric Interpretation      : RGB
Image Description               : OrthoVista
Orientation                     : Horizontal (normal)
Samples Per Pixel               : 4
X Resolution                    : 1
Y Resolution                    : 1
Planar Configuration            : Chunky
X Position                      : 0
Y Position                      : 0
Resolution Unit                 : None
Software                        : Trimble Germany GmbH
Tile Width                      : 512
Tile Length                     : 512
Tile Offsets                    : (Binary data 3127 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Tile Byte Counts                : (Binary data 2591 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Extra Samples                   : Unspecified
Pixel Scale                     : 0.5 0.5 0
Model Tie Point                 : 0 0 0 2506500 2389500 0
Geo Tiff Version                : 1.1.0
GT Model Type                   : Projected
GT Raster Type                  : Pixel Is Area
GT Citation                     : PCS Name = NAD_1983_2011_StatePlane_Alaska_1_US_Feet
Geographic Type                 : User Defined
Geog Citation                   : GCS Name = GCS_NAD_1983_2011|Datum = NAD_1983_2011|Ellipsoid = GRS_1980|Primem = Greenwich|
Geog Geodetic Datum             : User Defined
Geog Angular Units              : Angular Degree
Geog Ellipsoid                  : User Defined
Geog Semi Major Axis            : 6378137
Geog Inv Flattening             : 298.257222101
Geog Prime Meridian Long        : 0
Projected CS Type               : User Defined
Projection                      : User Defined
Proj Coord Trans                : Oblique Mercator
Proj Linear Units               : Linear Foot US Survey
Proj False Easting              : 16404166.6666667
Proj False Northing             : -16404166.6666667
Proj Center Long                : -133.666666666667
Proj Center Lat                 : 57
Proj Scale At Center            : 0.9999
Proj Azimuth Angle              : -36.8698976458333
Proj Rectified Grid Angle       : 0
Image Size                      : 9000x9000

and here are the two projection files that we have in play:

NAD 1983 -- (Alaska State Plane 1, US feet)

PROJCS["NAD_1983_StatePlane_Alaska_1_FIPS_5001_Feet",
GEOGCS["GCS_North_American_1983",
DATUM["D_North_American_1983",
SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],
PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],
UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],
PROJECTION["Hotine_Oblique_Mercator_Azimuth_Natural_Origin"],
PARAMETER["False_Easting",16404166.66666666],
PARAMETER["False_Northing",-16404166.66666666],
PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9999],
PARAMETER["Azimuth",-36.86989764583333],
PARAMETER["Longitude_Of_Center",-133.6666666666667],
PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Center",57.0],
UNIT["Foot_US",0.3048006096012192]]

NAD 1983 (2011) -- (Alaska State Plane 1, US feet)

PROJCS["NAD_1983_2011_StatePlane_Alaska_1_FIPS_5001_Feet",
GEOGCS["GCS_NAD_1983_2011",
DATUM["D_NAD_1983_2011",
SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],
PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],
UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],
PROJECTION["Hotine_Oblique_Mercator_Azimuth_Natural_Origin"],
PARAMETER["False_Easting",16404166.66666666],
PARAMETER["False_Northing",-16404166.66666666],
PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",0.9999],
PARAMETER["Azimuth",-36.86989764583333],
PARAMETER["Longitude_Of_Center",-133.6666666666667],
PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Center",57.0],
UNIT["Foot_US",0.3048006096012192]]

Re: GeoTIFFs, NAD 1983 (2011), Alaska State Plane 1, US survey feet; ArcMAP 10.0 vs 1

brucesimonson — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 04:02:21 GMT

A quick (non)-answer to my own question.

Never could get GeoTiffs, in Alaska State Plane 1, NAD 1983 (2011), US feet, to work properly in ArcMAP 10.0.

Seems to be working okay in 10.1 and 10.2.

Sigh, perhaps we'll never know the reason why.

-Bruce

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