topic Re: Georeferencing problem in Data Management Questions

Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:43:21 GMT

Hello,

I am having a problem with ArcMap 10.5.

I have hundreds of tiff images georeferenced in 10.3 but when I add them in 10.5 I cannot see them in the correct position anymore.

Does anyone know what to do?

Re: Georeferencing problem

JayantaPoddar — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 07:25:21 GMT

Did you copy the supporting files (e.g. .aux, .ovr files) with the TIFF rasters, if any?

Have you created any custom Coordinate System for georeferencing in 10.3?

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 07:37:40 GMT

All the files are in the folder (aux, ovr). No custom Coordinate System...RD New for Netherlands is used.

They appear fine and at the correct position in 10.3 and Arcgis Pro.

Re: Georeferencing problem

JayantaPoddar — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 08:25:20 GMT

Does the issue persist if you try opening the image in a blank Map document (new MXD)?

What is the shift in the image (screenshots would be helpful)?

Does the Feature Extent (Layer Properties > Source tab) look fine?

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 09:39:58 GMT

So this is what it looks like in 10.5:

Should look like this:

Extent:

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 09:42:11 GMT

So the image should be in the left corner of the image and much smaller.Where it says Centraleweg 7b.

The same thing if I open new mxd.

Re: Georeferencing problem

AbdullahAnter — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:19:56 GMT

Do the Data frame , Image and Base Map Have the same Datum?

Re: Georeferencing problem

DanPatterson_Retired — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:56:17 GMT

if you have a *.tfw file, .... see the checkbox about 'Use world file to define....'

perhaps 10.5 and 10.3 are toggled differently

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:34:11 GMT

Hello,

Yes it is the same.

Re: Georeferencing problem

AbdullahAnter — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 22:39:14 GMT

So this is what it looks like in 10.5:

I can see a little rotation in the wrong place raster.

If your original raster had no rotation , that is mean the raster still the geo-reference saved. and is spatial reference problem .

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:34:46 GMT

There is a difference I noticed.

The cell size in properties is different in 10.5 than in 10.3, although it is the same image I am adding in MAP.

Although I see this I don't know how to fix it...

Re: Georeferencing problem

DanPatterson_Retired — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:50:35 GMT

how was cell size given originally?

What are the cell sizes and what is their difference?

have you examined any *.tif and/or *.aux files in a text editor? report their contents if you have

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:34:57 GMT

So I have images georeferenced in 10.1 and in 10.3. The ones in 10.1 I can see perfect in 10.5. The ones georeferenced in 10.3 are not seen properly in 10.5.

The same image:

In 10.3 the cell size is like 0.026..., 0.026... and seen in the correct location

In 10.5 the cell size is like 2.533..., 2.6200 seen bigger but I think the rotation is correct

I tried to export the tif with the correct cell size and didn't work. Although that can't be a solution as i would have to export hundreds of tifs.

I took a look at the *.tif and/or *.aux but didn't see a difference to be honest.

I would try to attach two images but I don't know how.

Re: Georeferencing problem

XanderBakker — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:18:54 GMT

There may be a problem with your regional settings (1 see that the difference in cell size is a factor 1000). What decimal sign is configured currently? Did that setting change? Are you using 10.5 on a different system than where you use(d) 10.3?

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:20:28 GMT

The decimal sign is "."

The images where georeferenced on another computer with 10.3. The decimal sign on that computer is ","

A colleague has 10.4 the same decimal point as me but can see the images perfectly.

I also have Arcgis Pro installed which works and sees de image where it should...

Re: Georeferencing problem

DanPatterson_Retired — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:29:42 GMT

I would check Map and Pro settings then to see if they are set to use Windows regional settings by default

Re: Georeferencing problem

IuliaRoman — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:24:02 GMT

Thank you very much Dan and Xander!

It was indeed from ArcgisAdministrator - Advanced Configuration - Display Language - for me had to be English and not Display Language (English - United States).

THANK YOU!!

Re: Georeferencing problem

XanderBakker — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:30:07 GMT

Hi Iulia Roman , can you mark Dan's post as the right answer? This way other users with similar problems can find the solution easier.