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    <title>topic Help with showing different LiDAR returns in mosaic dataset? in Data Management Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370679#M21040</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would like to use a mosaic dataset that contains LiDAR data to show both a first return and bare earth surface.&amp;nbsp; The "LAS Dataset to Raster Function" help file contains the language posted below.&amp;nbsp; I've successfully created a first return surface with a 3-meter cell size using the Raster Type Properties dialog box (attached), but I don't see how I can use caching to show a different return or the ground class only.&amp;nbsp; In other words, how do I get access to the return types and class types to choose what surface I want to show since I've already selected "Any" for both types.&amp;nbsp; I am using the Triangulation radio button to take advantage of the constraints in my .lasd file.&amp;nbsp; Is the parenthetical that says ''no caching" throwing me off?&amp;nbsp; Any help in the process is appreciated as this will eventually be published as a service in ImageServer.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:1;"&gt;Number of cached surfaces�??The maximum number of caches that can be created using different properties (in this dialog box) for this surface. For example, you might add the LAS dataset to create a surface displaying all the points but you also want to visualize only the points that are classified as ground from the same dataset; therefore, &lt;STRONG style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;you can create two caches to visualize this data in two ways&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Entering a value of 0 will disable caching or clear an existing cache.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;............................&lt;BR /&gt;The cache will be updated in the following scenarios:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The input has been updated.&lt;BR /&gt;The cache has been deleted or is missing.&lt;BR /&gt;The function parameters are set to define a different surface than the one that matches the cache (&lt;SPAN style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;for example, use a different Return type&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:52:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>GregBacon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-12-13T16:52:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Help with showing different LiDAR returns in mosaic dataset?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370679#M21040</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would like to use a mosaic dataset that contains LiDAR data to show both a first return and bare earth surface.&amp;nbsp; The "LAS Dataset to Raster Function" help file contains the language posted below.&amp;nbsp; I've successfully created a first return surface with a 3-meter cell size using the Raster Type Properties dialog box (attached), but I don't see how I can use caching to show a different return or the ground class only.&amp;nbsp; In other words, how do I get access to the return types and class types to choose what surface I want to show since I've already selected "Any" for both types.&amp;nbsp; I am using the Triangulation radio button to take advantage of the constraints in my .lasd file.&amp;nbsp; Is the parenthetical that says ''no caching" throwing me off?&amp;nbsp; Any help in the process is appreciated as this will eventually be published as a service in ImageServer.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:1;"&gt;Number of cached surfaces�??The maximum number of caches that can be created using different properties (in this dialog box) for this surface. For example, you might add the LAS dataset to create a surface displaying all the points but you also want to visualize only the points that are classified as ground from the same dataset; therefore, &lt;STRONG style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;you can create two caches to visualize this data in two ways&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Entering a value of 0 will disable caching or clear an existing cache.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;............................&lt;BR /&gt;The cache will be updated in the following scenarios:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The input has been updated.&lt;BR /&gt;The cache has been deleted or is missing.&lt;BR /&gt;The function parameters are set to define a different surface than the one that matches the cache (&lt;SPAN style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;for example, use a different Return type&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:52:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370679#M21040</guid>
      <dc:creator>GregBacon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-13T16:52:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with showing different LiDAR returns in mosaic dataset?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370680#M21041</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;... since I've already selected "Any" for both types.&amp;nbsp; I am using the Triangulation radio button to take advantage of the constraints in my .lasd file.&amp;nbsp; Is the parenthetical that says ''no caching" throwing me off?&amp;nbsp; Any help in the process is appreciated as this will eventually be published as a service in ImageServer.&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;... &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Greg,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;On our practices with LAS standard 1.1 or higher, those data are usually pre-processed, in particular, noise removal, which is very critical for reliable analysis of LAS data later on.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Secondly, separate /different MDs from individual catalog (class) are created, saying, bare DEM MD, buildings�?? MD, etc; And eventually, cache, when needed�?�&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It seems that works fine in ArcGIS 10.2�?�&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;++++++++++&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Just like �??effective�?? noise removal, if LAS data is not compatible with LAS standard 1.1 or higher, the third-party package may be highly required, such as TerraScan or Leica Cyclone, before MD creation.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;For LAS standard, pls refer to &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.asprs.org/Committee-General/LASer-LAS-File-Format-Exchange-Activities.html"&gt;http://www.asprs.org/Committee-General/LASer-LAS-File-Format-Exchange-Activities.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:21:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370680#M21041</guid>
      <dc:creator>larryzhang1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-16T05:21:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with showing different LiDAR returns in mosaic dataset?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370681#M21042</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Now that I've added rasters to my mosaic dataset, I can access the Raster Type Properties dialog through the function chain to see LiDAR return types and classes again.&amp;nbsp; I've been able to change return types, classes and pixel size to see different views of the data, but I still don't see how this will work with the number of cached surfaces (10 by default) as cached images were not created and zooming/panning remains very slow.&amp;nbsp; Should I be focusing on creating cached images or just rely on overviews to increase performance?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I understand that I can use caching when this gets shared as a service, but for now, I'm just working with the mosaic dataset in ArcMap.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The .las files are 1.3 and I'm working in ArcMap 10.1 SP1.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:02:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/help-with-showing-different-lidar-returns-in/m-p/370681#M21042</guid>
      <dc:creator>GregBacon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-18T18:02:11Z</dc:date>
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