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    <title>topic SDO_GEOMETRY and datum transformations in Data Management Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/sdo-geometry-and-datum-transformations/m-p/21612#M1108</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We have a 10.0 SDE instance, with Oracle 11.1.0.7 as the underlying dbms.&amp;nbsp; Our data is stored in Oracle's SDO_Geometry format, with an Oracle SRID of 4326 (WGS84 Geographic).&amp;nbsp; Everything works fine, performance is good, but we have a problem with datum transformations.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Our users frequently want to view and map the data in one or more UTM zones, using Nad27 as their datum.&amp;nbsp; ArcMap will project the data with no problem, but it does not populate the datum transformations list:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;[ATTACH=CONFIG]23221[/ATTACH]&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Two solutions I've considered:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Manually define the transformation.&amp;nbsp; This is no problem, but is there any way to persist this?&amp;nbsp; I don't think we could rely on our users to do this correctly and consistently.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Create a custom SDO datum, using the ESRI datum name.&amp;nbsp; To the best of my knowledge, the definitions for both versions of the WGS84 datums are the same, but they have different names(the ESRI version is called "GCS_WGS_1984", while Oracle's version is "WGS 84").&amp;nbsp; I had considered entering a custom datum into the Oracle SDO_DATUMS table, with the same definition, but using the ESRI name, to try and "trick" ArcMap into using the same transforms.&amp;nbsp; I have no idea if this would work, though.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm not sure how to proceed here, but I feel like both of these solutions are convoluted, and I must be missing something obvious.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Has anyone dealt with this issue?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:24:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>IanFirkin1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-04-04T22:24:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SDO_GEOMETRY and datum transformations</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/sdo-geometry-and-datum-transformations/m-p/21612#M1108</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We have a 10.0 SDE instance, with Oracle 11.1.0.7 as the underlying dbms.&amp;nbsp; Our data is stored in Oracle's SDO_Geometry format, with an Oracle SRID of 4326 (WGS84 Geographic).&amp;nbsp; Everything works fine, performance is good, but we have a problem with datum transformations.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Our users frequently want to view and map the data in one or more UTM zones, using Nad27 as their datum.&amp;nbsp; ArcMap will project the data with no problem, but it does not populate the datum transformations list:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;[ATTACH=CONFIG]23221[/ATTACH]&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Two solutions I've considered:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Manually define the transformation.&amp;nbsp; This is no problem, but is there any way to persist this?&amp;nbsp; I don't think we could rely on our users to do this correctly and consistently.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Create a custom SDO datum, using the ESRI datum name.&amp;nbsp; To the best of my knowledge, the definitions for both versions of the WGS84 datums are the same, but they have different names(the ESRI version is called "GCS_WGS_1984", while Oracle's version is "WGS 84").&amp;nbsp; I had considered entering a custom datum into the Oracle SDO_DATUMS table, with the same definition, but using the ESRI name, to try and "trick" ArcMap into using the same transforms.&amp;nbsp; I have no idea if this would work, though.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm not sure how to proceed here, but I feel like both of these solutions are convoluted, and I must be missing something obvious.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Has anyone dealt with this issue?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:24:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>IanFirkin1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-04T22:24:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SDO_GEOMETRY and datum transformations</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-questions/sdo-geometry-and-datum-transformations/m-p/21613#M1109</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Just in case anyone else has the same issue, the second approach worked well.&amp;nbsp; I added new entries to SDO_DATUMS and SDO_COORD_REF_SYSTEM using the custom datum named 'GCS_WGS_1984', and the datum transforms now work properly in ArcMap.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:45:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>IanFirkin1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-04-09T00:45:57Z</dc:date>
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