topic Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2 in Data Management Questions

ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

MartinBernhardt — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:15:53 GMT

Hello,

i am using Arc GIS 10 and i have the following problem:
When i start the tool "Reclassify" with a Raster DataSet i get the error massage :"ERROR 010423[...]does not have valid statistics as required by the operation."
So i tried to fix it with "calculat Statistics" for the Raster Dataset. But even after doing this, i got the same Error
I use Reclassify inside a modell and i know that it worked before i installed Service Pack 1 and 2 so i tried to remove the two servicepacks and now the Reclassify works.
I think its a bug in SP 1 because i first removed SP2 and tested , with no succes und than i removed SP1 and the failure was gone.

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

RyanDeBruyn — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:26:51 GMT

Please note, it is not a bug in SP1 or SP2, it was an issue in 10.0.

Some spatial analysis tools require valid statistics for analyis. Statisitcs are invalid according to these rules.

Have not been calculated

Contain a skip factor greater than 1

Contain an ignore value

In 10.0 statistics where being built on the fly which was not ideal because we do not want to modify user input in any way, so instead we opt to return an error. That is why it fails in 10 SP1, 10 SP2 with the error message.

The solution is to use Calculate Statistics so if that didn�??t work may need to find out why. Try using the Calculate Statisitcs geoprocessing tool, or Copy Raster (specify Raster Analysis environment setting to build statistics). Optionally, output to GRID will force valid statistics. Other formats such as TIF, IMG, FGDB may have invalid statistics.

In 10.0 service pack 3, changes are planned to avoid the error and, if required, calculate statistics in memory (if they do not exist or are invalid). This way we do not alter any data and the tools should run successfully.

Please verify that the Calculate Statisitcs operation is working correctly. Good luck with your workflow. I appologize for any confusion.

Sincerley,
Ryan DeBruyn

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

DavidYeany_II — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:25:01 GMT

I was having this same error with both Reclassify and Extract by Attributes on an IMG dataset. I tried the Calculate Statistics tool, but it still came back with the same error message. I realized I was trying to perform the operations outside of a file geodatabase. Once I set up the workspace environment in my new file geodatabase, both tools worked. So I guess my problem was not using the geodatabase workspace.

Thanks for the help!

David Yeany

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

NAOMIPAUL — Fri, 04 May 2012 12:08:36 GMT

Hello,

i am using Arc GIS 10 and i have the following problem:
When i start the tool "Reclassify" with a Raster DataSet i get the error massage :"ERROR 010423[...]does not have valid statistics as required by the operation."
So i tried to fix it with "calculat Statistics" for the Raster Dataset. But even after doing this, i got the same Error
I use Reclassify inside a modell and i know that it worked before i installed Service Pack 1 and 2 so i tried to remove the two servicepacks and now the Reclassify works.
I think its a bug in SP 1 because i first removed SP2 and tested , with no succes und than i removed SP1 and the failure was gone.

I am also receiving the same error messages intemittenetly. There is nothing wrong with the data and my tiff images error when trying to save to a file geodatabas. The only work around I have found is to save, close, reopen and then run the tool. It is also the same with the Extract geoprocessing tool. It works after the save and close without modifing the data. I am finding that I have to do this inbetween every geoprocessing tool.

I think it is a bug also.

ArcMap ArcInfo 10 SP 1

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset fails at SP 4

RichardDaniels — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:26:34 GMT

Hello,

this issue is also seen with ArcGIS 10 SP 4. Specifically, REclassify, Reclass by Ascii file, Reclass by Table, and Lookup all fail with some data inputs (e.g., TIFF). If you close ArcGIS and restart 25% of the time one of the above tools will work, however no pattern was seen (e.g., Reclass by Ascii File in the 3D toolbox would work but the one in the Spatial Analysit toolbox would not).

Sounds like ESRI is not fully supporting TIFF image, one of the most popular formats for distributing satellite data.

I'm looking for a workaround on this.

Found that if I created a new file geodatabase and used that as the output location forthe Reclass by Table vs. outputing to a TIF it works.

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

EricRice — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:39:23 GMT

Richard,

I can assure you we are fully supporting the Tiff format. It is our default output format for any tool in Data Management > Raster, assuming your workspace is set to a folder rather than a geodatabase. It is the format we recommend using if you're serving raster data. It is the format I most often work with and we definitely know how widespread the format usage is. Tiff is kinda like vanilla ice cream in my opinion. We have also added support for BigTiff format.

If a tool fails to output Tiff, but works with other formats it is a defect with the tool, and should be reported to Esri Support for further investigation.

Best Regards,
Eric

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

NeilSang — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:21:53 GMT

Hi,

I am not sure if I am facing similar problem. I am trying to reclass a FGDBR raster (statistics calculated) with the followig Ascii table :

0 0.5 : 0
0.5 5 : 1
5 10 : 2
10 15 : 3
15 20 : 4
20 100 : 5

I was originally using ArcObject but when I couln't figure out why it wouldn't work tried it directly via ArcToolbox an got the same error.
I have tried integer only version , and a version with 1 to one mappings rather than ranges, just incase, but same error message :

Syntax error 010328
Syntax error 010267

I have managed to reclass the rater using Reclassify in Toolbox but I want to implement in ArcObjects and am not sure how to do this without ASCII/INFO table.

I am using Arc 10 with SP 3.

Regards

Neil

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

NeilSang — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:19:48 GMT

Problem was resolved with SP5 . However, it is worth noting that the ArcObject .Net version requires that the path does not contain any spaces. Perhaps add this to the user guide ESRI?

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

GerardBourke — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:49:15 GMT

I've been using zonal statistics a lot in my current project and have found it a fairly temperamental and buggy tool...

My main problem is that the tool will and then cut out at some point, returning me only a partially complete table. Typically the polygons left out are always small ones (I'm trying to catch elevation & slope stats in a cadastre), so my guess is that the tool will give up if it encounters small polygons that may want to 'share' a cell from the raster.

Basically, my work around is an iterative process where I take successful ones and paste them into my 'base' shapefile, then run the tool again on another shapefile that contains the polygons were left over; I repeat this process until I get the "ERROR 010423" and I have to stop.

In a nutshell, I think in my case the tool has run into polygons that are too small to process or its running into some other rule that won't let the tool run, or some other bug?

This was happening on 10.0 with all service packs and again on 10.1 with SP1

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

JeffreySwain — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:21:02 GMT

For Zonal Statistics the omitting of the zones can be a problem depending on the size of the zone and the cell size. If you do not have a raster cell that will fit in the rasterized version of the polygon. So based on your testing, I would consider making the raster a finer resolution prior to processing and see if this solves the issue. There is a reference to this in the help documentation.

If the zone input is a feature dataset with relatively small features, keep in mind that the resolution of the information needs to be appropriate relative to the resolution of the value raster. If the areas of single features are similar to or smaller than the area of single cells in the value raster, in the feature-to-raster conversion some of these zones may not be represented.

To demonstrate this, try converting the feature dataset to a raster with the appropriate feature-to-raster conversion tool and specify the resolution to be that of the Value raster. The result from this conversion will give an indication about what the default output of the zonal operation will be.

If you have fewer results in the output than you may have expected, you need to determine an appropriate raster resolution that will represent the detail of your feature input, and use this resolution as the Cell Size of the Raster Analysis Settings of the Environment.

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

GerardBourke — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:32:49 GMT

Thanks Jeff, I'll keep that in mind the next time I do this 🙂

On the 010423 Error though, after I'd read this post and went back to work and I changed up my method. Instead of stopping once I got the error, I split up the remaining polygons and forced them through in multiple batches, processing the largest of the left-overs first and then the smaller ones.. this time with no error.

This is different from before where if they were too small, the process would carry on and simply not return the results (what you were saying, Jeff). If you encountered the error it wouldn't process at all, but by splitting them up they would all go through eventually with no error.

Why would it decide that it couldn't calculate the statistics for a group of polygons but it will for multiple smaller groups of the same polygons?

I'm working with a 25m cell size (which has been checked and rechecked for missing values) and it is failing on polygons up to ~1700m², where it is working fine on 10,000's of other polygons of the same size and smaller.. so I think there is still something to the process failing if it has to 'share' a cell... will test further

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

JeffreySwain — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:05 GMT

Did you ever convert your data to a raster and look at where it put the pixels? I would process that and then look at the problematic errors. It should explain what the tool is doing when considering the zones.

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

GerardBourke — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 01:11:55 GMT

So I converted my polygon layer into a raster, set the cell sizes to be the same as the raster I want stats from (25m). Then I converted that back into polygons to run zonal stats to see what was going on.

The first run I did when reconverting back to polygons I allowed it to simplify the polygons, thinking I'd get more 'organic' shapes and maybe a but closer to the original. Ran zonal stats and again was coming back with a bunch of empty fields. Typically they were all small, which was expected, some a bit smaller than the raster cell size (because they were simplified). Even so, many of these undersized ones could still be calculated. Flicking through them I noticed that many of the unsuccessful ones were 'sharing' cells and mustn't have had the largest portion compared to their neighbour. However, there were cases where they weren't sharing cells or were even little islands away from other polygons, some just would not calculate.

I did this again but this time I unchecked the simplify polygon box to see if that made a difference. This essentially halved the failure rate, but still had some left overs, same as before. Only this time, since no polygon could be smaller than a cell, even the smallest polygons had to be over greater portion of a cell (except in cases where it would be perfectly aligned over four cells, but that would be very rare).

When I tried to run zonal stats with the left overs (as I had done successfully many times with my orginal shapefiles), it would not run - error 10423. Tried trimming the groups, still nothing.

So, why is it breaking? If you have a square over a grid with cells the same size as your square, unless the corners are perfectly aligned with the centres of each cell, you must have a greater portion of one of the cells and the centroid of a cell within the boundary of your square. So how is it deciding which cells to include?

Definately, very small polygons won't work, but I still think cell sharing can explain part of it. Perhaps the order they are done? I can't see one though, failed cases can appear at random; it doesn't matter if the neighbour cells are left, right, up, down or before or after their object ID number. I can't see a pattern. Even so, that doesn't explain the failed cases where there are no neighbours.

So I conclude that I can't work it out and am going to get back to work now 🙂

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

JeffreySwain — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:03:56 GMT

When you converted it, did you use the snap raster environment setting to align the pixels? Or make it match the extent of the raster via the Output Extent? From what it sounds like, pixel registration is causing issues. Since you are choosing to match the cell size, I would complete it and then use the snap raster and processing extent.

Re: ERROR 010423 on Reclassify of Raster Dataset only with installed SP1 and SP2

GerardBourke — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:53:41 GMT

Yeah, tried that. Snap to raster isn't working (I've seen your comment one of those troubleshooting forums too, Jeff). Turned off background processing, tried doing it in ArcCatalogue, it just won't snap. Keeps coming out the same... of course that's another problem for another forum... Though apparently that one's been fixed? hmmm...