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    <title>idea Combining time fields (temporal table relates) in Data Management Ideas</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idi-p/937066</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is somehow related to: &lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/ideas/11541" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Web Map: time slider support for m-1 tabular data related to feature layer&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It happens to me now in the second project in a row that I have entities with geometries that change over time and, independently, with tabular attributes that change over time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;An example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Province A has a boundary change in 1950 - so there are 2 polygons(A1, A2), one with time fields 1940 and 1950, another one with 1951-1960 . Province A has Governor XYZ from&amp;nbsp; 1932 to 1956 and Governor QWE from 1957 onwards.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, the "valid" combined chronology would be 1940-1950 (A1,XYZ); 1951-1956 (A2,XYZ); 1957-1960 (A2,QWE).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My solution has so far been preprocessing: Do the SQL in a relational database, import it as query table to ArcGIS, query each single year, identify polygons identical between 2 consecutive years using cursor function with arcpy and store "stable time" in two fields and eliminate superfluous polygons.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem (apart from complexity): It takes forever (it's thousands of entities over hundreds of years), it's rough to reproduce the procedure when the structure or to-be-processed fields change, and there is not just one such related table - in the example: the "province" doesn't only have changing governors, there's also economic and demographic data that changes over time, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And I produce dozens of huge datasets that share the same geometric basis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now, if a table relate could just understand combining chronology between shape and table entry, everything would be fine. The SQL behind it is no rocket science...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2022 18:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>WernerStangl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-09-09T18:09:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Combining time fields (temporal table relates)</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idi-p/937066</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is somehow related to: &lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/ideas/11541" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Web Map: time slider support for m-1 tabular data related to feature layer&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It happens to me now in the second project in a row that I have entities with geometries that change over time and, independently, with tabular attributes that change over time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;An example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Province A has a boundary change in 1950 - so there are 2 polygons(A1, A2), one with time fields 1940 and 1950, another one with 1951-1960 . Province A has Governor XYZ from&amp;nbsp; 1932 to 1956 and Governor QWE from 1957 onwards.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, the "valid" combined chronology would be 1940-1950 (A1,XYZ); 1951-1956 (A2,XYZ); 1957-1960 (A2,QWE).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My solution has so far been preprocessing: Do the SQL in a relational database, import it as query table to ArcGIS, query each single year, identify polygons identical between 2 consecutive years using cursor function with arcpy and store "stable time" in two fields and eliminate superfluous polygons.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem (apart from complexity): It takes forever (it's thousands of entities over hundreds of years), it's rough to reproduce the procedure when the structure or to-be-processed fields change, and there is not just one such related table - in the example: the "province" doesn't only have changing governors, there's also economic and demographic data that changes over time, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And I produce dozens of huge datasets that share the same geometric basis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now, if a table relate could just understand combining chronology between shape and table entry, everything would be fine. The SQL behind it is no rocket science...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2022 18:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idi-p/937066</guid>
      <dc:creator>WernerStangl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-09T18:09:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Combining time fields (temporal table relates)</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idc-p/937067#M899</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does this documentation answer your question.&amp;nbsp; This is implemented in ArcGIS Pro.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/help/mapping/time/overview-of-time.htm" title="https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/help/mapping/time/overview-of-time.htm"&gt;Get started with time—ArcGIS Pro | Documentation&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2020 23:40:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idc-p/937067#M899</guid>
      <dc:creator>JonathanNeal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-22T23:40:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Combining time fields (temporal table relates)</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idc-p/937068#M900</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;No, that does not solve the issue. The documentation features cases of&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;a)Static geometry and temporal change in attribute&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;b)Temporal change in geometry and static attribute&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem that needs solving is temporal change in geometry and (independent) temporal change in attribute. I find nothing that tackles this issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:26:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/data-management-ideas/combining-time-fields-temporal-table-relates/idc-p/937068#M900</guid>
      <dc:creator>WernerStangl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-02T13:26:00Z</dc:date>
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