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if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

BeenuVarughese — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:04:03 GMT

I don't want to combine desktop licenses with pro licenses on the license server.

i would prefer they stay separate.

thank you!

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

JayantaPoddar — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:05:04 GMT

Yes. ArcGIS Pro CU licenses will be different from ArcGIS Desktop (ArcMap) licenses, even though both can be hosted from the same ArcGIS License Manager.

For more details, read Concurrent Use licenses—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop

You must install ArcGIS License Manager 10.5.1 or later to manage ArcGIS Pro 2.0 Concurrent Use licenses.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

BeenuVarughese — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:19:36 GMT

Thank you!

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:35:22 GMT

Jayanta:

Would you have a screenshot of what the LM looks like when hosting both ArcMap and Pro concurrent use licenses?

This is what LM 10.5.1 currently looks like when just hosting ArcMap licenses, so I'm looking for a comparison. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:38:19 GMT

Here's what ours looks like:

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:41:29 GMT

Thanks for the screenshot. How is your transition from ArcMap to Pro going (e.g. Have you been able to convert 50% of your workflow to Pro, just an example)?

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:51:25 GMT

Hi Michael, I work in the IT department of a US County, for some background. Right now, we just have our power users in the departments using Pro, so just a small handful. Most people use a web application to view layers. For those who use ArcMap, the issue is getting them better, 64 bit PCs to be able to run Pro. In regard to our workflows, we need it to be able to work with the Parcel Fabric, but other than that, after lots of practice, I've gotten used to using it. Not sure about other departmental workflows. We are working on implementing Portal, though it's already great how it interacts with ArcGIS Online. Let me know if you have any specific questions.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:35:30 GMT

Chelsea:

Does your org just use Concurrent Use licensing for Pro? If so, were you entitled to the same number of Concurrent Use licenses for Pro as you had for ArcMap without paying additional money for Pro Concurrent Use licenses as compared to the cost for ArcMap Concurrent Use licenses?

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:56:35 GMT

We converted our named user licenses to concurrent and only use that now for Pro. It seems easier to manage from an admin viewpoint, since we don't have to assign them to specific users. I double checked in MyESRI, and there are only "ArcGIS Desktop Basic/Standard/Adv Concurrent Use" Licenses. None specifically for Pro. On ESRI's website, What You Get with ArcGIS Pro | Esri, it says Pro and ArcMap are included with ArcGIS Desktop. So it doesn't cost extra.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 17:29:27 GMT

Thanks for the info. In your LM screenshot it shows that you have 6 ArcMap advanced licenses and 6 Pro advanced licenses. Does this currently mean you have access to a total of 12 advanced GIS licenses? If so, will this last indefinitely or is there some sort of time limit where you can still use the ArcMap licenses before only Pro licenses are available as that is the replacement software?

Did you previously have 12 ArcMap advanced licenses and you split your allocation in half between ArcMap and Pro for the transition period?

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Mon, 06 Aug 2018 18:10:27 GMT

Hi Michael, They are independent, so yeah, it's like there are 12 advanced licenses right now. We can't really utilize them all right now, though, since not everyone has 64-bit PCs. Eventually, ArcMap is to be replaced by Pro, but that is years away. Nope, all our ArcMap seats became ArcMap + Pro seats once Pro was released.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:04:55 GMT

Chelsea:

With concurrent use licenses for Pro, do users still have the ability to upgrade the Pro software like you have with Named Users through AGOL? I knew this is a liability and I have seen evidence of this where the Python Package Manager which was working in Pro 2.1 is now broken in Pro 2.2 and needs a workaround to be used.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:34:29 GMT

Hi Michael,

I haven't delved into this since so few of our users are on Pro, but from my observations, users do need to be signed into AGO to actually get the update. I haven't tested it to see if Portal also works. It also prompts for an admin password to install it in our environment. I haven't looked into if we can get around this for our users.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:46:42 GMT

So are you indicating that a machine with a concurrent use Pro license, can be upgraded through AGOL if the user has an account in AGOL and is an admin on the machine?

If this is the case, what if the org has a LM that only supports up to Pro 2.2.1 and Pro 2.3 is available through AGOL in the future? Would the user be able to update the Pro software and then fail to open the updated Pro software because the LM does not support the upgraded Pro version that was performed through AGOL?

Not specifically directing this question at you, since you might not have encountered this scenario at this point in your Pro implementation, but maybe someone else (ESRI personnel) might have encountered this scenario.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:57:49 GMT

Tried on a new Windows 10 laptop. Directed Pro to our concurrent license manager and Pro told me it needs an update. The Download Now button for it is greyed out until I signed into ArcGIS Online or Portal. Looks like either would work. I downloaded the update and it prompted me for my admin credentials to be able to install it. If you allow users to install things on their PCs, they'd probably be fine.

Hmm... we stay on top of updating our license manager so we can try out the latest ArcMap, so not sure how that works with Pro if the LM version starts to get outdated. I can keep an eye out when there's a new release.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:09:46 GMT

This page has a good FAQ related to your questions. Frequently asked questions—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop Not sure what your situation is, but note that: "the Concurrent Use License type is available only to customers who already have Concurrent Use licenses of ArcGIS Desktop current on maintenance."

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:17:41 GMT

Not that this is my situation, but can an org that is new to GIS request to use ArcMap instead of Pro so in the future they would be able to switch to the concurrent use licensing scheme from the default named user licensing scheme if they choose to work with Pro?

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:24:24 GMT

I would double check with an ESRI rep, but my understanding is that they grandfathered in people with current Concurrent Use licenses to be able to use them with Pro and that new people wouldn't be able to do that. If a new organization bought ArcMap licenses, they are ArcGIS Desktop Licenses, so they would be getting Pro with ArcMap anyways even if they don't want to use it yet.

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

MichaelVolz — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:09:35 GMT

It looks like there is no ArcGIS Administrator for Pro concurrent use licensing, so I just want to confirm from reading the documentation that you point to your license server in the Licensing screen of the Pro splash screen using the Configure your licensing options button and would have Concurrent Use License available in the License Type drop-down once you have converted default Named User licenses to Concurrent Use licenses?

Re: if i convert arcgis pro named user license to concurrent license are they separate from desktop licenses?

ChelseaRozek — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:15:13 GMT

Right, ArcGIS Administrator is built into Pro. I can adjust my license level (basic/standard/advanced), check out a Pro license for offline, etc. on these screens. As you can see on the right side, Concurrent Use License does become an option when I typed in our license manager's alias.