topic Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal in ArcGIS Web AppBuilder Questions

Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

GerryGarza — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 03:19:21 GMT

Hi All,

My IT team and I have been going back and forth on which WAB version I should use to create user Web Apps. I have used both of the above for around five months and prefer the Developer Edition over the Portal version. The only reason IT wants me to go with the Portal version is because of the "friendly" URL it creates. I told them I prefer the DE version because it's updated four times per year, it has more tools available, and it seems to perform much better under load. Does anyone else think that it's faster than the embedded Portal version?

Thanks,

Gerry

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

MichaelRobb — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 22:12:37 GMT

The only reason IT wants me to go with the Portal version is because of the "friendly" URL it creates

Friendly? as in, the 32 char itemid hanging off the end of the URL is friendly? Bitly version friendly? I wouldnt call either of these friendly.

It is more friendly to place the web app on a web server and call it anything you want. That would be readable... and 'friendly'. e.g. https://gerry.com/MyMap or https://MyMap.gerry.com

Extract the web app from WABde >> dump to IIS >> e.g. https://mycorp.com/mymap looks more friendly than portal WAB URLs all day long.

Highlights:

Upgrades of WABde is much more controllable than Portal Upgrades. One is a light weight zip, the other is an enterprise upgrade or delicate replacing of folders in the back end.
The huge advantage of using WABde is the adjustments and enhancements done on the back end... much easier to look for the app #, adjust the json or html in the back end, do the tweaks than to hunt for the 32 char portal item in the portal content directory and hope you dont break anything. e.g. adjust popup width and height... easy in WABde, not so much in Portal. Especially since Portal files sit on a server that most shouldn't have access to.

Promoting WABDE is very easy when leveraging Visual Studio Code... find/replace the ID, and all front end URLS (e.g. a load balancer FQDN) done. copy new files to new environment easy.
WABde contains more 'stuff'
Broken apps are easy to recover when using WABde, not so much in portal.

Downfalls:

WABde breaks your custom stuff every upgrade done. (using the node_xXX upgrade command) (any json/ js / html is over written by the new version). so document these custom changes.

There is more ... but hope this provides a start as a case for your IT discussions

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

GerryGarza — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:47:55 GMT

Hi Michael,

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I prefer the simple (https://mymap.team.com/myProjectName) that DE creates. The issue is that I am not allowed to log on to the server and DE points to the Server Manager machine, so it puts the server name in front (https://usrtx4689dgre.team.com/myProjectName). My IT prefers https://mymap.team.com/mapviewer/index.html?id=08864098cdd044668c4fffe4a6767039, becuase mymap stays in front. I have a feeling it is a Web Adaptor configuration issue in addition to some firewall settings.

Thanks,

Gerry

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AmyKlug — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 22:48:28 GMT

In my opinion don't use Portal to create web apps, use developer edition. you can publish the downloaded apps from developer edition on your web server. Something breaks in the apps when created in Portal that is copied to another Portal

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

MichaelRobb — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:43:59 GMT

You do not have to re-create the app.

If you need to copy the APP to different environments you use Portal Assistant to COPY CONTENT (>> different Portal ) which copies the Web MAP. You then use Portal Assistant again to change the REST service paths. Save. (takes 2 minutes).

For the web app. use Visual Studio Code to Find replace the Portal Path, ItemID and environment Paths. Takes 2 minutes.

Publish the web app to the new web server. Done.

Ive even downloaded the GIS Portal assistant and customized.

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

MichaelRobb — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:49:42 GMT

Your answer is a bit confusing.

You need to setup a web server, throw IIS on it, download your web app and unzip it on that web server. use IIS to point to it, you can then name it whatever you want. your competent IT team should be able to create whatever domain or sub domain / alias pointers it wants within your organization. If they don't, fire them.

suggesting mymaps.team.com means a web server under whatever domain is being used... somewhere. (what is team.com -) This is sounding like you are using AGOL and not doing this in house...

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

GerryGarza — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:05:15 GMT

Michael,

Does Portal Assistant only work with Portal for ArcGIS Web AppDeveloper or can it also be used for Web AppBuilder Developer Edition?

Thanks all,

Gerry

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AmyKlug — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:45:25 GMT

Gerry, I have found that with the Portal Assistant you can copy layers and maps between Portals, it does not work for apps that are built in Portal (the app must be re-created on the new Portal). Even if you change the json file in the assistant.

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

MichaelRobb — Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:04:39 GMT

Hi.

Portal assistant cannot replicate web apps... however, in 10.5.1 I do believe you can export and import.

WABde is meant for a web server not for Portal anyways, hence why WABde wouldnt work for portal assistant.

I have moved web apps from portal to portal but that is manual file tinkering on the file level to make that happen. Had started doing .net scripts for it... for a promoting package of server services, data, web maps and web apps and IIS settings but it seems to be a never ending side project...

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AmyKlug — Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:54:17 GMT

Out of curiosity, how to you access the files for an in-Portal web app?

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

GerryGarza — Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:00:07 GMT

Hi Amy,

If you have created Web Apps using WAB within ArcGIS Online, the Portal WAB is very similar to that experience. We store all data in SQL enterprise geodatabases that are registered through the Portal Data Store.

Regards,

Gerry

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AmyKlug — Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:38:24 GMT

I finally figured out how to copy content from one portal to another where Web AppBuilder DE links do not break. You actually have to go to the Portal server (where you copied the content to) and change the ID’s in this folder (location depends on where you put in upon install):

http://server.arcgis.com/en/portal/latest/administer/windows/changing-the-portal-content-directory.htm

You will find folders with all the item ID’s and inside are the item ID .json files (do not show extensions in my directory). I would not edit them directly so I had to copy them to my PC, edit them and then copy them back in to that folder (delete the old file). Notepad ++ has a nice feature that will search all files in a directory and replace, remember that came in handy during this process (widgets?).

You might have to change the widgets too. I’ve heard the “search” widget needs to be edited for some reason

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

MichaelRobb — Fri, 29 Dec 2017 22:39:58 GMT

You should use Visual Studio Code.. Much easier and better than Notepad++. Select Folder (WABde) and find replace all at once, save. next..

Visual Studio Code - Code Editing. Redefined

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AmyKlug — Fri, 29 Dec 2017 22:47:55 GMT

Been doing that with Notepad ++. I have VS Code, will try it there so compare.

Re: Web AppBuilder Developer Edition or Web AppBuilder Portal

AdamChavez1 — Fri, 29 Dec 2017 22:57:04 GMT

WAB Within ArcGIS Portal is a very good tool for quick and simple web applications.

You can EXPORT your site out of the portal and make customizations afterwards/migrate the application to a different App Server, but your base WAB application is still stored within your portal if you ever needed to go back.

WABDE is great if you have the understanding - and need to have fully customized or integrated systems and you have a version/code control system already in place to document your changes.