topic Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network in ArcGIS Utility Network Questions

XY tolerance in the Utility Network

JanCreupelandt — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 21:32:24 GMT

Hi,

I was wondering how the XY tolerance / resolution is used in the Utility Network. To test this, I first loaded the feature classes from an asset package as simple feature classes into an enterprise geodatabase. Here, I didn't got any load errors like self-intersecting points nor duplicated vertices.

In my second test, I deployed the asset package. The Territory feature class has a resolution of 0,0001meter & tolerance of 0,001meter (like my initial feature classes). After enabling network topology, I see a lot of self-intersecting & duplicated vertices errors.

If I zoom into the errors, I see the distance between 2 vertices for error line is >2mm, which I believe is not withing the XY tolerance. So, why do I get all these errors?

is there another way to define the XY tolerance / resolution in the utility network?

thanks,

Jan

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

PaulLeBlanc1 — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 00:31:12 GMT

To clarify, for the first test, there is no utility network -- just simple point/line/polygon feature classes with data?

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

JanCreupelandt — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 09:00:01 GMT

Correct:

* Test 1 = copy the feature classes from my asset package to an enterprise geodatabase as simple point/line/polygon feature classes -> no errors here

* Test 2 = deploy the asset package -> many duplicated vertices & self-intersecting errors

remarks:

* resolution in the file geodatabase (asset package) is 0,0001 & tolerance is 0,001

* I executed the check geometry on the file geodatabase before loading data, but no errors came up

Jan

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

PaulLeBlanc1 — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 15:16:18 GMT

When you are copying the simple features into EGDB, are you using a feature dataset? If there aren't errors in the asset package then I would expect the same simple features in EGDB to also not be in error.

For test 2, how are you creating the UN -- are you using Stage Utility Network (in the asset package tools) or Create Utility Network (the core geoprocessing tool)?

Can you share the asset package? You can email pleblanc@esri.com

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

WillBooth1 — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 22:10:55 GMT

Hi Jan,

Did you get a resolution to your XY tolerance / resolution questions? I am working on a UN project where new data is coming from another Vendor's system (probably a different coordinate system as well) and they need to know how far apart assets (or vertices) need to be placed so as not to get load errors or even points rejected as they no longer have distinct X,Y,Z values.

Cheers

Will

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

JanCreupelandt — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 22:30:25 GMT

Hi Will,

2 coordinates (X,Y) are considered coincident if the distance between both are less then 2*square root(2)*tolerance.

For save we use 3 times the tolerance.

So, if the tolerance is 0,001 m, then we make sure distance between 2 coordinates is >= 3mm.

this is applicable for 2 consecutively vertices in a line features, and also for connectivity between 2 features.

In my tests, for Z coordinates it must just differ, no matter how much.

Hope this helps,

Jan

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

BillyBuerger — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 03:45:14 GMT

Thanks for this. I just ran into the same issue where I had topology errors between features that I thought were disconnected because they were farther than the XY Tolerance. Turns out they were 2.78X the XY tolerance which is within the 2.82 distance you mentioned. Where did you get the 2*Sqrt(2) info? Did ESRI tell you this or is it documented somewhere?

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

Jens_Dalsgaard — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:28:25 GMT

I doubt changing tolerance is the right approach. It'll likely render new issues - e.g., performance.
And what would be the 'correct' tolerance.

Much better would be having Esri delivering a script parsing data to be loaded and removing irrelevant vertices; that is an arbitrary of two too closely placed vertices, of course not removing end-vertices as this may impair connectivity.

Re: XY tolerance in the Utility Network

RobertKrisher — Thu, 09 Oct 2025 13:32:52 GMT

The Migration Toolset released in 3.5 can identify these situations (using Analyze Network Data) and resolve them (using Apply Error Resolutions). It is also capable of identifying and resolving a variety of other common topological issues.