topic How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation? in ArcGIS Utility Network Questions

How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MatheusSparapani — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:45:29 GMT

Hi,

This is my system configuration:

Water Utility Network version 5
ArcGIS Enterprise 10.9.1
ArcGIS Pro 2.9.5

I would like to know if it is possible to exclude LifeCycle Status (Abandoned and Retired) from topology validations, I am facing a problem in my network because of this.

I have an End Cap that was retired, and I created another connection (unknown) in its place, in this case, the End Cap was "Retired" and the Fitting Unknown was "In Service".

However, the following error is returning on my network, and the only solution I could find to resolve this error was to delete one of the connections, but, in the system, we must have both, because we need to maintain the history of our network.

Is there any configuration mode that does not consider some specific LifeCycle Status in topological validations?

This is very important for the Water System.

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MarceloMarques — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:49:28 GMT

Using historical moments with the utility network (esri.com)

What is archiving?—ArcGIS Pro | Documentation

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MikeMillerGIS — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 19:16:33 GMT

No, A feature cannot be excluded from topology based on a network attribute. It can only be set as a barrier to a subnetwork.

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MichaelParma — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 19:51:44 GMT

@MikeMillerGIS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the recommended practice in this case is to offset the z-value of the retired asset (e.g. by -1) to avoid the conflict.

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MikeMillerGIS — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 20:58:07 GMT

Yes, that is one way to exclude it from being connected. Move all abandoned assets to a different Z

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

Brian_Colson — Thu, 30 Nov 2023 17:52:07 GMT

We also created a standalone feature class, outside of the network, which we can copy / paste the retired features into, which removes it from the topology. The feature class is within the same database, and edit service, just outside the network. It works.

We haven't gotten to Z yet, which is why we went that route.

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MatheusSparapani — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:57:16 GMT

Hi Michael, Did you do this automatically for more than one point?

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MikeMillerGIS — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 15:48:16 GMT

Take a look at the https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/latest/tool-reference/data-management/adjust-3d-z.htm tool. This will shift the Z values for a selected set of features

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MikeMillerGIS — Tue, 16 Jan 2024 13:04:48 GMT

We just finished a prototype of an Attribute Rule to lay down a set of classes to store abandoned assets and a set of attributes rules to move features to these classes and remove the abandoned assets. If you want to test it out, try out the atbx here - https://github.com/Esri/Utility-Data-Management-Support-Tools/tree/Preview3.1.2

The GP tool is in the Attribute Rules toolset, call Create Abandon Classes.

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

GavinMcGhie — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:56:21 GMT

Hi all- This thread sounds related to a thread I started, so i wanted to link the 2. It seems to me that Esri missed the ball on this one. Why would we want to have a lifecycle status of abandoned if those features are still going to be included in topology? I can't figure how that makes any sense to use. It sure seems like abandoned, retired, design should either be excluded, or made optional. for topology.

Esri- please note that all we have are work-arounds to this major issue, like offsetting with Z-values, which has its own problems (i.e. 3D), or creating a dataset outside of the UN to store this info. That seems to defeat the purpose of the UN functionality. I sure hope this is on the development radar. I stopped working on a plan B in hopes that Esri will address it with a proper UN based solution.

Thanks

Remove abandoned features from active UN - Esri Community

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

MikeMillerGIS — Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:44:09 GMT

tool was moved to https://github.com/Esri/arcade-expressions/tree/master/attribute_assistant

Re: How to exclude the Abandoned or Retired devices in the UN validation?

KarynTareen — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:12:29 GMT

thanks Mike!