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Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

CMSchelde — Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:21:13 GMT

I curious to find out if the Utility Network data and model can work with the ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In for Interoperability Between AutoCAD & ArcGIS? - https://www.esri.com/en-us/arcgis/products/arcgis-for-autocad

Can someone at Esri provide me with some information about this and if it is even being considered or if it is already on UN Road Map.

Thanks in advance for your help with my question.

Colleen Madigan Schelde - comas@nexel.dk

Nexel

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

PierreloupDucroix — Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:18:32 GMT

Hi,

the main issue is that ArcGIS for AutoCAD cannot connect to a named version. You can draw in a UN service, but only in the Default branch, which is not a standard workflow in Utility Network. Otherwise, it works, you can create feature and dirty areas will be created in ArcGIS. But network rules won't be honored in AutoCAD (no snapping rules, no associations...). Attributes rules should work since they are on the server side.

I tried to register a UN service in my Portal with the "gdbversion" parameter set to a named version to see if it works in AutoCAD without success. Maybe there are other ways to do that, but I don't know.

Being able to edit a named version un AutoCAD is the most important thing to be compatible with UN and branch version workflow.

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

CMSchelde — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 13:09:47 GMT

Pierre -

Thanks for your response and input.

Best regards,

Colleen

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

PierreloupDucroix — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:33:16 GMT

You're welcome,

it would be great to hear Esri staff about this compatibility between applications and UN workflow.

Maybe the branch versioning team or AutoCAD team may have solutions or workarounds.

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

JimmyBowden — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:12:39 GMT

Over a year ago I posted an Idea to allow read access to branch version data in ArcGIS for AutoCAD. It is currently "under consideration".

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

CMSchelde — Tue, 29 Aug 2023 12:40:34 GMT

Thanks Jimmy for your input!

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

PierreloupDucroix — Fri, 01 Sep 2023 06:14:40 GMT

hi @Randy_Garcia

do you have some news about our topic ?

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

Randy_Garcia — Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:37:17 GMT

Hi Thanks for the mention @PierreloupDucroix

One of the big things in supporting UN is branch versioning as mentioned in this thread. The team is currently working on implementing this as will hopefully be available in the next release Version 430. We are looking for a release very late this year/early new year.

With that said, there is a lot more to do in order to support UN properly, right now ArcGIS for AutoCAD can edit and work with web feature layers. While branch will let you bring in the UN layers and work with them we still need to do things to make sure we are being a good "citizen" in supporting UN workflows. When we release branch versioning support we still aren't doing anything to support UN specifically. While it gets you a lot closer there are still going to be gaps you will come across. We hope the gap will get smaller every release. If there are specific things about UN outside of branch versioning that you would like to see in ArcGIS for AutoCAD please feel free to submit an idea.

I hope that helps!

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

mfafard — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 16:53:27 GMT

I’m just trying to bring pipes and hydrants from UN to ArcGIS for AutoCAD (V435), but it doesn’t seem possible. Right?

Re: Will the UN Data Model work with ArcGIS for AutoCAD - Free Plug-In between AutoCAD & ArcGIS?

AyanPalit — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:57:30 GMT

@mfafard You should be able to pull the data from the default version of the geodatabase as well as reference map services.

also, at 430 release of ArcGIS for AutoCAD:

Support for the creation and editing of branch versions of web feature layers.