topic Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

MichaelMason3 — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:09:05 GMT

When georeferencing in Pro 2 using control points, my images are shifting downward once I save the results. After removing and re-adding the image, and loading the control points, the control points are being displayed in the correct locations but the image is still shown as shifted downward. Even when opening in ArcMap, the image appears in the wrong place. I am using the same coordinate system as the map when georeferencing. What could be causing this?

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

LawrenceMillett1 — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 11:02:05 GMT

This happened to me on a couple of occasions.

I did not find a proper solution from this .... only to remove all of the referencing from the image and start again. The issue did not always reoccur/persist, as after re-starting I did eventually manage to complete the geo-referencing successfully.

Would be good to know if there is a specific reason/event that triggers the issue.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

XanderBakker — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:14:43 GMT

It might be best to report this to Esri Support, and let them investigate if they can reproduce the issue with your data.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

LawrenceMillett1 — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 10:47:33 GMT

Michael - Did you ever find a reason solution for this ? I didn't report to Esri support, was just wondering if you took this any further ?

Thanks

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

VictoriaAnderson1 — Sat, 10 Mar 2018 00:04:35 GMT

I have also had the same issue. I deleted a few control points and it moved back to where I sort of wanted it. But, that is not really a good solution if I wanted to make it more accurate. Has anyone found a better solution?
Thanks

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

JillHalchin — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 19:17:30 GMT

It think you're hitting bug BUG-000103090, originally reported with Pro 2, then I reported it for ArcMap 10.5. It was supposedly fixed in Pro 2.1.2, but we are seeing the same problem intermittantly. The problem is only with tifs, so convert your files to jpg before trying to georeference them. If you have previously georeferenced tifs, use the Raster to Another Format tool to convert it to something other than tif.

Update, using Pro 2.1.2: it is also happening with jpgs now. Also, sometimes the image just disappears when you save georeferencing then close georef mode. Start georef mode again, and the raster reappears. The same raster will display in ArcMap 10.6. And yet another: sometimes you click to add a control point, but the cursor never changes and you can't add a point.

All of these problems happen whether you have the Pro options set to use world files or not. We've resorted to georeferencing with 10.6. So far, ArcMap is working for us. Clearly, the bug that I was told is the cause doesn't explain all of the problems that we're seeing.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

ThomasColson — Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:54:18 GMT

Does the same thing happen in 2.2? And, do the computers this problem is occurring on meet the requirements in ArcGIS Pro 2.2 system requirements—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop including latest video card driver? Have you changed display mode in Pro Options? Does Troubleshooting Performance Issues in ArcGIS Pro indicate any video problems when using the display diagnostics mode? (These are all the things TS is going to ask you).

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

AliciaMetzger — Wed, 12 May 2021 21:09:22 GMT

I am currently having this issue with ArcMap 10.7.1... very annoying I have to delete the data from the folder and restart every single time I georef an image lately....

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

James_Shively — Thu, 13 May 2021 14:41:08 GMT

The issue continues with ArcGIS Pro v2.7.2. Our office is experiencing image shift back to the original location when saving (overwriting) as original image name. However, when saving "As New", the image stays in the georeferenced location. Not ideal since we do not want to duplicate imagery. (date: 5/13/2021)

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

RayMontgomery — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 18:20:14 GMT

Even worse, TIFs georeferenced years ago don't display correctly at 10.7.1

We have over 1,500 TIF files (subdivision plats) that we georeferenced over the last several years. These have the full set of TFWX, etc files for each plat. At 10.3, we could click a button on a tool we made, click on the map, and the sub plat would load into the map in the correct location.

After upgrading to 10.7.1, this only works part of the time. The rest of the time, the plat loads, but we have to use "zoom to layer" to see it. It has moved outside our city boundary and become many times the size of the entire city! Changing the "no data" color to make it visible, the supposed extent is even larger- a square about the size of our state. Sometimes the image appears as a spotty black and white diagonal smear.

I have opened the TFWX file, and everything looks normal. These are not newly-scanned, so the issue is not caused by new scanning software variations. These are older scans that worked fine before.

If we load one of these misplaced, or misplaced and misshapen TIF images using an older machine that still has 10.3 on it, they behave correctly. The fault is apparently not in the TIF, the TFWX, etc, but in ArcMap itself.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

mikeharol — Sun, 19 Jun 2022 00:29:37 GMT

I have same problem arcgis pro 2.9

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

DanielCRS — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 14:58:09 GMT

It looks like this exact question was posted in GIS StackExchange:

https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/270691/image-shifting-after-georeferencing-in-arcgis-pro

The basic solution there is to

-start the georeferencing process

-make a small edit (like fit to display, a manual move, scale, etc.)

-save (causing the shift)

-add control points

-save

It seems that the first save causes a shift and then subsequent saves will hold. Definitely bizarre behavior, but I too am seeing this in 2.9. I've also seen it hold after a restart, but it will briefly render the image in the original location before updating.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

JohnMoody — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 13:53:29 GMT

Two of our workstations are having this issue with some TIFs in ArcGIS Pro 3.2.0. Has anyone found a fix yet?

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

LanaJewell — Tue, 04 Jun 2024 21:54:35 GMT

Thank you for this excellent workaround and the stackexchange link! This reply saved me a lot of headache when two of my TIFs decided to jump ship. I'm currently in 3.2.2 and still seeing this error.

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

ElizabethZizzamia1 — Fri, 07 Jun 2024 15:35:28 GMT

Sigh, I am also having this bizarre behavior using the Georef tool bar. I have 2 side by side drone images that just need slight adjustment. Both images adjust to the control points during the georef process until I hit the save button. Then the latitude changes to -1.### something and puts the image in Ecuador. The control points still show in the correct place. And I can't place any new points. I also can not zoom to the drone image until I exit out of the Georef tool. Then it goes to 1 degree S. I've taken screen shots of where the image is supposed to be with the control points, and where it ends up.

The first image was fixed after deleting the tfw file and starting over. The second one will not work, even when I just place one point. I started completely over with the original images and in a brand new ArcPro Project file. I've repeated this process several times now with no luck.

Here's the temporary project if anyone at ESRI I wants to take a try.

https://richmond.box.com/s/mp1nct624g6c53kglai4g1f92tnkdg6j

Re: Georeferencing Result is Shifting After Saving

ElizabethZizzamia1 — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 15:50:17 GMT

I revisited this issue and starting questioning every part of my process. I started with the fresh original file that had never been referenced. I looked at the tiff's EXIF info and saw that it did have a spatial reference. I brought it into a brand new ArcGIS Pro project with just the control points. And I placed the control points with the auto adjust option. But this time I changed the Transformation Option to Adjust, not 1st order polynomial which is the default and has historically worked fine. I hope this helps someone else. I was about to give up.