topic Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

SarahRijneke — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 17:13:39 GMT

I've created a pro project with 25+ layout showing tree planting locations around my city. Inside of each map layout, I have a dynamic text box that automatically calculates the total tree count in the layout view. About 5 of the layouts display the wrong tree count. In the following screen capture, the dynamic text produces a count of 47 trees. In the bottom left corner I can see that there are only 37 trees in the attribute table (I use the select by location tool to only select trees within Zone 5). What's up with this discrepancy?

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

BarryNorthey — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 19:00:59 GMT

You possibly have a Definition Query filter running.

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

TomBole — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:54:44 GMT

Hi @SarahRijneke

It is possible that the extra10 features in the count are features that are on the edge of the map frame, maybe "hidden" by the border of the map frame, and were not selected.

To troubleshoot try setting the map frame border to 0. See if you have tree features along the edge. You may also use the dynamic text "Values" and list the ID of the visible features and compare this to the the features you see in the map frame (you may need to turn on the labels for the layer).

It it is still a mystery you may be running into a bug. If so, we would need more information to properly troubleshoot.

Hope this helps,

Tom

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

SarahRijneke — Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:38:01 GMT

Thanks for that suggestion. I added dynamic text to the map to show a list of the ID's of the points that are 'visible' in the map. This revealed the extra points that are being counted which appear to be outside of Zone 5 (top right corner). I'm using a mask in the map to exclude points that are outside of the zone from appearing on the map and in turn should not be included in the total tree count so this looks like a bug to me.

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

TomBole — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:09:00 GMT

Hi @SarahRijneke

I've confirmed that dynamic layout elements do honor layer clipping. Since the "extra" features are right along the edge of the clip shape, my guess is that the symbology of the points intersect with the edge of the clip shape and are counted as being in view.

To confirm this you can set the border symbol of the clip to 0 and do a page zoom (not a map zoom) into the area of interest. You may find that features, or part of the symbol, are visible.

For example, in the screenshots below I have 2 point layers with the same geometry. One is clipped (masked) while the other is not. There is a legend that shows the count of features visible in the map frame.

Here you see that there are 3 "Masked" features.

I've moved a feature to the edge of the outside of the clip shape (highlighted in yellow). The number of visible "Masked" features has increased and is now 4.

At first glance it appears that this feature is not visible and that the visible feature count reported by the legend is incorrect. However, if I zoom into the page (not the map), I see a sliver of the "blue star" symbol of the "Masked" layer.

If the symbol is visible, even if very small, it counts.

Currently there is no way to set a tolerance level for how much of the symbol needs to be visible to be counted.

As a work around I would suggest copying the tree location layer into a new layer with a symbology of 1 point in size. I would place this layer at the bottom of the layer order so that it would not draw on top of any other layer. I would use this layer to derive my count. This should help in most of these edge cases.

Hope this helps.

Tom

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

SarahRijneke — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:45:18 GMT

Thanks, Tom. I was trying to avoid having to create copies of the data in order to automate this process (I need to produce these maps several times per year). The dataset comes from Cartegraph and is managed by another department. They update several data tables in Cartegraph and in this situation I was able to join the point feature class to another layer that contains the zone information (unfortunately this makes my pro project very slow to work with). From there I used a definition query to only show points in zone 5 rather than using masking but I will keep your suggestion in mind for other projects!

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

GISAdminSHN — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 15:39:40 GMT

@TomBole are there any methods for this where the point symbol geometry would be ignored in favor of the absolute coordinate of the point? I actually think that should be the default for points, and that respecting point symbol geometry should be the option.

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

TomBole — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 16:35:17 GMT

@GISAdminSHN - No, there is not an option for layout elements such as legends and dynamic text to override the symbol with the coordinate of the point.

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

GISAdminSHN — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:20:52 GMT

We don't want to override the symbol, we want to NOT have symbol geometry be the deciding factor in whether a point is considered in our out of a geometric bounds! It should be based on the coordinate! (or coordinate and user-specified buffer)

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

TomBole — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:46:16 GMT

Dynamic elements on the layout (ex: legend items with show only visible option checked on, dynamic text, etc) work with how symbols are drawn on the map - not with feature geometry (point coordinates). It is a visual, WYSIWYG, experience. This allows the layout elements to be database agnostic. This also allows for better performance.

There is a trade-off to this approach - the "symbol overlap" issue described in this thread. There is no option to switch from the "symbol" based approach.

In cases where geometric accuracy/precision is required I would recommend using Select by Location or a geoprocessing tool to get better results.

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

GISAdminSHN — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:41:01 GMT

I appreciate the clarification, thanks. I am still concerned that these masking and clipping operations that are for the purposes of "in view" are also masquerading in other places as clipping functions that a user would expect to be clipped by coordinate value. Is there a definitive list somewhere we can review? This would be really useful info to be in the mouseover info or tooltips wherever these checkboxes or settings occur!

Re: Dynamic Text in ArcGIS Pro not always correct

TomBole — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 16:59:18 GMT

@GISAdminSHN thanks for the feedback.

Unfortunately I'm unaware of any comprehensive list of all similar functionality across ArcGIS Pro and whether they use a visual approach. I can only speak to the expected behavior of layout elements that have the the Feature Display Options (Legends) and the "Visible rows" query option (Dynamic Text, Table Frames and Chart Frames).

We had hoped that the term "visible" in the tooltip for these options would indicate the WSYSYG nature of the results. Looks like more information may be needed. I'll pass your comments to the team to see if there is an opportunity to revise any help documentation.

Just to sum up. These layout element specific options work off of what is visible (i.e. is the feature symbol visible) in the map frame or within the extent of the current map series index feature. Unlike geoprocessing tools, or the Select by Location tool, these layout element-specific options DO NOT use spatial operators, such as intersect or contained by, on feature geometries.

Tom