topic Re: Can't install spyder in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Can't install spyder

DanielEscobar — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 18:05:32 GMT

I am having trouble installing Spyder from the python package manager. I have cloned my environment, and once I install Spyder, the program appears to be loading, but I cannot find Spyder anywhere. Spyder also does not appear in the "Installed packages" list.

thanks!

Re: Can't install spyder

Brian_Wilson — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 18:09:23 GMT

Not sure how to mark a related thread

https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-pro-questions/arcgis-pro-2-8-fails-to-clone-default-environment/m-p/1069041

Re: Can't install spyder

DanielEscobar — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 18:49:35 GMT

I am a little confused here. Would you recommend installing mini conda? My command line does not return an error message or other response.

Re: Can't install spyder

JayantaPoddar — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 19:09:53 GMT

Please check the steps in Installing spyder IDE for ArcPro

Post Install instructions

Having installed spyder how do you actually run it? Well the way I do that is to create a short cut to it and place that on my desktop. You will find the application here:

C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\yyy\Scripts\spyder.exe

xxx = Your user login

yyy = Your chosen name for the cloned environment

Open file explorer and navigate to spyder location.
Right click on the application and send to desktop to create a shortcut.
Optionally right click on the newly created shortcut, select properties and set the icon for the application, the ico file is in the same folder location as the application.

Re: Can't install spyder

Brian_Wilson — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 19:08:14 GMT

Sorry-- the whole thing is confusing, conda should work for us!

I've tried several times now on my machine to use the conda that comes with 2.8, but it does not work for my setup. I recommend using whatever works for you and doing the most normal thing. 🙂 That means if ESRI conda works, you should not install miniconda but it is a workable option FOR ME.

I wanted you to know that other person Joe has been trying to get spyder going with 2.8 and backed off to 2.7, which version are you using??

Re: Can't install spyder

DanPatterson — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 21:39:57 GMT

You don't need to install in the clone.

Shortcuts are covered here

ArcGIS Pro 2... Creating Desktop Shortcuts - Esri Community

conda install spyder=5.0.4 --no-pin

will install it in your base with the correct version of jedi and parso until spyder 5.1 comes out.

Shortcut stuff

Target

C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3\pythonw.exe "C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3\Scripts\spyder-script.py"

Start in

C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3\Scripts

Change arc_pro to you installation path if you must clone.

Re: Can't install spyder

Brian_Wilson — Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:17:53 GMT

If you install into the base and then clone the base then all the packages you have installed there will be copied to clones, so it's always best IMO to avoid installing anything into the base.

Also IMO it's nearly always best to try whatever Dan Patterson suggests. Nearly always 😉

Re: Can't install spyder

DanPatterson — Fri, 18 Jun 2021 21:20:25 GMT

you really shouldn't "clone" in the first place, you should "install" packages into a separate environment. What would the point be of having all arcgis functionality replicated in a clone if all you wanted to use was tensorflow for instance. Do the analysis stuff in one environment and the mappy stuff in another if needed.

As for spyder, you can specify the python executable to use within their property settings, hence one spyder, optional pythons.

The downside as far as arc goes, is that the version of python is tied to 3.7 currently because of arcpy dependencies (some of which are real, others not).

There is nothing wrong with having your ide installed in base as long as "it" knows which version of python to use regardless of the active environment.

So don't "clone" the whole environment, create one with the packages you need for analysis and a separate one to keep "mappy happy" 😉

Re: Can't install spyder

Brian_Wilson — Fri, 18 Jun 2021 23:44:55 GMT

Good point but have you noticed there is no way to create a new empty environment inside ArcGISPro? "Clone from default" is the only option. Also there is no access to the base environment. There is no way to select a particular version of python since the default already has it installed and you have to clone to create new environment. Also, there is no way to remove a package so if there is a package in the standard ESRI collection and there is a conflict, well then you are unable to use the your new package.

So advice to anyone out there, basically, forget working with environments inside ArcGIS Pro. Learn the command line. Use the Esri GUI in Pro to select an environment that you have tuned outside of it.

Cloning anything is likely to pull in a lot of packages that you don't need and it's really easy to add missing things to a stripped down environment, like "conda install -n NAME arcpy" or set up a clean one with "conda create -n NAME arcpy".

Normally on Windows I will do something like "conda create --name mypy python=3.7.9" as the first step so that I get a copy of python that can load all the DLL files.

Re: Can't install spyder

DanPatterson — Sat, 19 Jun 2021 00:18:41 GMT

I use conda, not the package manager

--force see your other post

try copying the folder of one environment into the folder containing a previous, but compatible env into your

C:\..your_install_folder...\bin\Python\envs\

skip package manager, use conda to change/activate your environments

Re: Can't install spyder

DanielEscobar — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 17:39:02 GMT

My version is 2.2.0

Re: Can't install spyder

DanielEscobar — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 17:39:46 GMT

I follow these directions and Spyder does not install or appear in the list of installed packages.

Re: Can't install spyder

DanPatterson — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 19:48:39 GMT

Arcgis Pro 2.2?

That makes it worse since I can't remember which version of spyder worked with Pro 2.2. The last version of Spyder 4 and the current versions of 5 certainly won't.

You should upgrade Pro to 2.8 or use the python window in Pro until then.